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Wash: Core or Rim Worlder?

POSTED BY: nuclearday
UPDATED: Thursday, April 6, 2006 22:10
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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:12 AM

That's actually a really good question. And I don't know the answer.

I think he's probably a rim worlder, but if he is he must be from a fairly well off family. He certainly seems to be better educated than most of the crew. In fact, the only others that seem better educated are Simon and River, who seem to come from a rich family.

The fact that his planet is polluted makes me think it can't be a core world. There's no way the core would have their skies obscured that way. Can you imagine the mess and the smell and the noise needed to produce that much pollution.

As pure speculation, I'm guessing that Wash was raised by a parent who made a good living in industry. One that probably lectured him a lot as a kid about settling down and working hard and how dreaming about being a pilot wouldn't put bread on the table. But that's just me :)

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:49 PM

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Originally posted by gor:
Beaumonde is known for its pollution according to the RPG so that would be my guess.





Beaumonde is my guess as well.



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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:08 PM

Some good ideas here. Think now I'm leaning towards an industrial-type planet somewhere near some of the more settled planets. (Thinking I'll be needing to pick up the RPG soon, for some more misc. background info if nothing else.)

I still just have this image in my head of Wash coming from somewhere in the Core as opposed to the Wild West of the Rim. Hard to me to put into words, but...

Wash just struck me as someone who wouldn't belong in the Core. (Mayhap it's the Hawaiian shirts.) I've always just had this instinct that he grew up somewhere near the Core, maybe not one of the main planets, but somewhere where the Alliance way of life definately had an influence. I mean, he's definately a city-boy. I just keep somehow getting this image of Wash just not being able to... fit in there?

I mean, you take Simon, and he's obviously coming from the Alliance mindset. Likely would have done quite well for himself there, and been an upstanding civilian were it not for River. Like I said, I'm having trouble putting it into words, but I see Wash trying to live that life, and continually failing miserably :)

Anyways, more inane rambling ;p

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Friday, March 31, 2006 1:30 AM

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Originally posted by daveshayne:
I say core. In Our Mrs. Reynolds as you note he talks about his homeworld' "polution's so thick you couldn't see a one of them." (refering to the stars in the viewscreen.) This to me suggests a large population which suggests a core world.



To be contrary, either a lot of pollution nor a large population imply a developed area (India has the most of both, e.g.). More likely, lots of pollution confirms a border world: an industrial base (so it ain't Rim), but polluted and dirty (so it ain't Core).

I think Beaumonde might be a good guess. Could be a number of other places around, though; perhaps some places were quite different pre-war. KF



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Friday, March 31, 2006 4:24 AM

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Originally posted by Kizyr:
To be contrary, either a lot of pollution nor a large population imply a developed area



But in general, the highly populated planets in the 'Verse are the core worlds and you don't get lots of polution without lots of people. But yeah it could be a border world or a very tiny moon with some very dirty coal plants somewhere on the rim.



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Friday, March 31, 2006 5:06 AM

my guess is on the Border Worlds, like Boros or Beaumont





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Friday, March 31, 2006 11:48 PM

Yeah, not too sure about Wash coming from a strict rim world... I agree that the Coreward planets wouldn't have had so much pollution on them, but equally Wash does have those inane little quirks that just wouldn't fit growing up on a "ruff tuff" rimworld...
...besides, how could he otherwise know about the high-class pastime of juggling geese?

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 1:02 AM

I definitely think that Wash at least went to flight school in the Core, to guess specifically, Londinum. (His patch in Serenity, which I assume is a flight school patch, reads "Lyndono," perhaps the name of the school or something other.)

We all know that he's an awesome pilot, quite possibly the best in the Border Territories, and he's been highly sought after from the time he left flight school to when Mal hired him. It's not too much of a stretch to see him getting accepted to the best school on the best planet in the galaxy.

He of course did not fit in very well there so as soon as he got his license, he left the Core and their small-mindedness to go explore the rest of the galaxy (where he managed to land on a planet and lived in a lovely goose-juggling community).

Contrary to Mr. Tudyk's beliefs of his character, I don't think Wash was in the War (based mostly on his responses to the events in "War Stories"). I almost like to believe that he was so far off in his own world, having his own adventures, that he didn't even know there was an actual "War" going on until a couple years after it ended.

OR maybe he was in a POW camp, as Mr. Tudyk surmised, but he was (again) completely oblivious to the War that he believed his charges were less severe than "Treason," and he didn't even realize that his entertaining the guards with shadow puppets might have saved him from torture or death.

Hmmm... I smell a fanfic...

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 2:43 AM

I'm saying that he's a core worlder. There seems to be an assumption that the core worlds are populated exclusively with people like Simon and Inara. That's not necessarily true. I'm sure there are blue collar working stiffs on those worlds also. Wash clearly has been around, but he has a lot of first rate Alliance knowledge. I don't think you get that from the rim. Besides, that's the only place you'd have enough cash to waste of gosling juggling.

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 8:27 AM

I have alway wondered though, what did Wash do during the War? I mean we are pretty sure that he didnt serve on ethier side, but he is such a hot pilot it seems odd that no one tried to snatch him up.

'Might have been on the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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