Why Wash is 100% alive and mostly well.
POSTED BY: pastorbadger
UPDATED: Thursday, November 22, 2007 09:57
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I still say it was a dream....THE WHOLE GORRAM MOVIE WAS A DREAM!
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Originally posted by PsychicRiver:
I think Joss was trying to make it pretty certain with the impaling.
PsychicRiver
"Two by two, hands of blue."
"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"
"I swallowed a bug."
(Imitating Jayne saying "Butcher Knife!")
Steering column!
Same size, same shape, same velocity, eminently survivable.
"I am not repeating myself, I am not repeating myself! Oh, God, I'm repeating myself." Ryan O'neil, "What's Up, Doc".
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Originally posted by fordaith:
I still say it was a dream....THE WHOLE GORRAM MOVIE WAS A DREAM!
Not a reason in the ‘verse Joss couldn’t do a passel of prequels. There is precedent…
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Okay, I have to do it... Sorry...
"It's called a LANCE! Hello!"
Okay, now that that's done... I watched the Director's commentary on Serenity, and I heard Joss Whedon explain why Wash had to die. It was the same reason that we thought for a moment Zoe had died, then Simon. We even thought that River might die. Notice that we only THOUGHT they were dead. It is entirely possible that we only THOUGHT Wash was dead. This whole idea of Wash surviving is quite possible.
Also, when Joss Whedon did this movie, he was probably pretty sure there wouldn't be a sequel. So if there is a sequel, it could change everything.
And can we drop the whole Reaver-or-Alliance-ship-on-their-tale thing? It really doesn't make a whole lot of difference.
And while we're quoting other movies, we'll continue with the Princess Bride. "What you got here worth living for?" "True Love."
Besides, I think he has a kid on the way. But that's another thread.
"We may experience some slight turbulence, and then... explode."
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Originally posted by 11thHour:
Wait... Buffy and Angel aren't believable?! WTH? I like totally bought into them. My disbelief happens to be suspended pretty darn high, and is held with steel cables...
Hold on. We're operating under different senses of the word 'believable'. The characterization and acting are completely believable, which is why both series are really good; I was referring only to the background setting.
...unless you really do believe there are vampires afoot. Then we'll just have to diverge on this subject.
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Originally posted by 11thHour:
Oh, and River's ESP makes perfect sense to me. Though the terraforming is problematical. The added challenges of planet proximity/distance to the Sun, and all kinds of wacky gravitational variances based on mass aren't even addressed...
Well, a lot of that is handled simply by the development of artificial gravity. Most of the advances we see in Firefly couldn't've happened without it: terraforming, inertial dampeners, hovercrafts, etc. But, like you, I'll willingly not pry too much into the nitty-gritty of it, 'cause relateability is a lot more important than absolute realism.
'Sides which, if I start asking Joss science questions, I'm gonna make him cry.
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Originally posted by 11thHour:
Firefly/Serenity takes place 500 years from now... things that we would consider impossible now could be quite doable by then. Hey, our technology right now would be inconceivable to someone who lived in the 1500s.
Well it's a lot more than that... Educated folks even in the 1500s could still find a lot of the things we have right now conceivable, and there are plenty of things firmly within the realm of believability on a 500-year time frame--among them, fusion power and artificial gravity.
The specific example here, though, is with bringing back someone from the dead. We've already redefined what 'death' is in the last century alone. It's not when you stop breathing; it's not when your heart quits; and it's not when your brain quits, even. So I'm sure there'll be a narrowing of the gap between complete death and our standing definition of death within the next few centuries... but for that gap to be 30-minutes or more?
I'm gonna wager that both of us would want the same thing, though... It'd be great if Wash came back in a way that seemed plausible, and not cheap. And while I can't think of a way to make it happen, I wouldn't put it past Joss Whedon or Tim Minear to come up with a way.
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Originally posted by pastorbadger:
Actually, the last exhalation means his trachea is still connected to his lungs. For a major pnemothorax, the air will bubble out through the wound. You're right. Major clue.
If I wanted medical jargon, I'd talk to a doctor. KF
~KF
Lord, I'm walking your way. Let me in, for my feet are sore, my clothes are ragged.
Look in my eyes, Lord, and my sins will play out on them as on a screen. Read them all.
Forgive what you can and send me on my path. I will walk on until you bid me rest.
~Haven Prayer
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Originally posted by micjwelch:
Okay, I have to do it... Sorry...
"It's called a LANCE! Hello!"
Your post was so accurate (i.e. I agreed with you) that this is all I could find to pick on. lol
According to dictionary.com, a lance is "A thrusting weapon with a long wooden shaft and a sharp metal head". Knights carried them into their targets.
This was a projectile. I'm going to go with "flechette". Defined as "A steel missile or dart dropped from an aircraft or fired from an artillery piece."
I do this only because I clearly like to argue, and this thread is running out of steam. Also, it's a big word, and people argue with you more if you use big words. For example: Simon vs. Jayne. Who's more likely to GET an argument? (Even if you do go all...bendy.)
P.S. I will alternately support anyone proposing "fizgig".
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Originally posted by pastorbadger:
I do this only because I clearly like to argue, and this thread is running out of steam. Also, it's a big word, and people argue with you more if you use big words. For example: Simon vs. Jayne. Who's more likely to GET an argument? (Even if you do go all...bendy.)
P.S. I will alternately support anyone proposing "fizgig".
I have dropped into this thread only because it's a fascinating read and because I have to tell you PastorB... you made me get goose bumps with hope.
So.. I'll not argue, because I don't like to, but since I live with people who do love to argue I have some appreciation for a good arguer and you are definitely a good one.
Oh by the by, the big word thing does work well.
And... cuz I do this sort of thing... welcome and I'm very glad you de-lurked.
" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal
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Originally posted by pastorbadger:
(Alliance “to do” list for today: #1 Get the Tams. #2 Don’t get ‘et by reavers. #3 Kill reavers. #4 Did I leave the stove on at home?) ,
That might have been the Alliance "to do" list but once the Reaver arrived thru the ion cloud the top priority of getting the Tam's droped to #3. As I quote the Operative when the Reavers arrive "target the Reavers, target the Reavers! Target everyone. Somebody fire!" So survival became the number one priority for the Alliance at that time.
As for the ship that EMP'ed Serenity. It's a Reaver ship that used the EMP. I'm 100% sure because I took Serenity to work, watched, and paused it to confirm Reaver ship.
On DVD Chapter 15 1 hour 27 minutes 25 seconds: ship is shown on Serenity's tail. Pausing the DVD shows the ship has red colored markings on right wing.
On DVD Chapter 15 1 hour 27 minutes 33 seconds: Shows ship firing the EMP cannon. Again red colored marking on EMP cannon, right wing, and some other turrent mounted on ship
On DVD Chapter 15 1 hour 27 minutes 41-42 seconds: Again can see red colored markings on the ship.
It's clearly a Reaver piloted ship.
The Reavers landed first and the Alliance followed after they had taken care of the Reavers in space and reorganizing the "to do" list with the Tam's back at #1.
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KLAM, where is it that you work,cause I wanna work there.
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