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Disappointed in the movie :(

POSTED BY: lonesail1
UPDATED: Friday, March 31, 2006 17:46
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Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:06 PM

OK, I've been a fan of the Firefly series since I first saw them on FOX... but never got around to watching Serenity: The Movie (having kids can do that to a person).

So... I just watched the movie... and was just shocked. Why in the world would Joss Whedon kill off three members of the original cast?

There certainly was not NEED to do that. Let me repeat: I have not seen any NEED for the plot to go in that direction. I can understand death of sheapard Booke... even though it too could have been easily avoided. But accedental deaths of Wash and Simon? That's... I have no polite words to describe it.

Joss just shot himself in a foot and if there ever was a chance of resurrecting series (or doing another movie about Sereniy), it's gone.

I'm just in shock. Why would he do that?

Very disappointed in the movie.

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:13 PM

I was upset at first also about the deaths of Book and Wash, and in fact Simon is still alive and kicking. Book, yeah understandable death. Also makes it harder to figure out just who he was before boarding Serenity. Wash's death was done to make the end of the film more dramatic. When a major character dies, you go through the entire finale of the film wondering who if any of the remaining characters will survive. It worked for me, I had the sense that no one was safe, and in fact most were injured in some way. So though you may not agree with Wash's death, I think it worked for the film. The BDM was not the series, so it fit in the entire large scale dramatic sense of the movie.

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:18 PM

Simon lives, unless Kaylee is a dirty necropheliac...

She'll turn you in before you can say "Don't turn me in...lady..."

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:21 PM

Oh, yeah, I remember that scene in the end now. OK, Simon lives.. but then why there were three tombstones?

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:24 PM

um....first of all, simon didn't die....

now that that's out of the way. at first i believed what you believed, i was pissed and sad and a whole mess of other things. i am still kinda miffed, but i have figured out that wash really isn't dead (long story, go to: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=19261 for the whole thing about that) and that things will go their way. Wash's death opened doors for zoe to show things and also for other possibilities, but keep in mind that (at least i believe) he will be coming back, and not only in flashbacks and the such.

and do remember, this is joss. he was showing that anything could happen. there was no point to wash's death and, though i don't agree with the reason joss did this, the point of it it actually having no point was to show that ...well death doesn't have to MEAN something, doesn't have to have a purpose. it just is. like i said, i don't particularly like the reason, but it does bring up those ideas and makes it more like real life.

just a suggestion? watch it again. i did and it got better the second time around. i had put so much into the movie, so many hopes for it, that when things turned out as they did i was way disappointed, i also thought that the characters weren't the same. the second time around it gets better....of course, the second time around i looked down when wash started to say "leaf on the wind". but it's good now. is a purely joss masterpiece.

keep flyin'
EngineAngel

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:25 PM

Shepard book! Not so much headstones as memorials.

An I carried such a torch

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lonesail1:
Oh, yeah, I remember that scene in the end now. OK, Simon lives.. but then why there were three tombstones?



Mr. Universe was the third.


But yah, I was quite disappointed as well.

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:26 PM

the other one was for mr universe if i remember correctly.

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:27 PM

Joss said himself that if Serenity were only for FF fans he would have made it less "kill-y." As mentioned in an above post, he had to set the bar higher for drama and conflict with the BDM and unfortunately that meant that the crew would be in mortal peril. While it's painful to see beloved characters die, don't go thinking that their stories are over if there is another movie or series. Joss is a very clever man, and he will surprise us. Let's just hope he gets the chance.

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:35 PM

Yeah you're right of course, I watched again and this time paid closer attention to the memorials and last scenes.

Still, quite a bummer about Booke and Wash.

And about who Book was before he became a Shepherd... I think he was a disillusioned Alliance agent/bounty hunter, much like the one who tried to stop Capt. Reynolds... history repeats itself.

Still disappointed in movie though. Acting and character development was... not what I expected. Kaylee's "You mean... sex?" just made me cringe as did a few other moments... Oh well.

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