V for Vendetta review

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DEVIDARKWOLF

Monday, March 27, 2006 4:14 AM

God, what a great effin' movie, but I am such a huge fan of the Wachowski brothers. Big Matrix fan, me, and don't anyone dare compare V and Matrix, because that is stupid and pointless.

The character of V was so interesting and new, I loved it.

ZAKNRFAMA

Monday, March 27, 2006 4:17 AM

Originally posted by Kayna:

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And CTC, I get what you're saying about comparing movies and books. I read The Queen of the Damned years before the movie came out and when I went to see it all I could do was scream in my head. "NO this wrong, all wrong! What is that?!? What is going on here?!?!". I saw it with several friends who had never read the related books and thought that it was a decent type of Vampire flik. I thought it was horrible. To this day, I can't make any kind of judgement on it without getting upset.

Oh man. I only saw Interview With The Vampire last week, over a year after reading the book. I heard it was a great movie, but /damn/. It was all wrong, and I was yelling at the TV. XD I guess it'll be the same way when I see Queen of the Damned.

I'd like to go see V for Vendetta, but I'll probably wait until it comes out on DVD. Either way, it sounds like a fun movie.

KAYNA

Monday, March 27, 2006 6:32 AM

Actually, I thought Interview with a Vampire was alright. Queen of the damed just pisses me off. I'll give you an example of why

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Lestat's love interest is a woman and Louis is missing entirely.

Aside from that, there are half a dozen important characters that are either MIA, little more than extras, or so wildly different from the book that they may as well be different characters entirely. Also, it's actually an attempt to squeeze two books into one Movie, Queen of the Damned and the preceding book, The Vampire Lestat. That's always a bad idea. Fiting one book into a single film is hard enough, fitting two is usually a disaster.

I should prbably stop now. This is the V for Vendetta thread and I seem to have gotten a bit off topic.

I still want to see V by the way. I'm just broke and busy. I'll get there eventually.

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

RAY53208

Monday, March 27, 2006 8:14 AM

i LOVED v for vendetta. its as if someone took a little piece of my heart and then gave it back to me as a beautifully crafted gift.

i loved it that much.

moore as a standard practice always divorces himself from the movie versions of what he has written. league of underwhelming gentleposuers made that a neccessary act.

after reading the graphic novel i feel that the movie is faithful to it. to me it represents an evolution and a refinment of the idea to a new medium.

ray

“With the first link the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, changes us all irrevokably. The first time any man’s freedom is trodden on, we are all damaged."

ZOID

Monday, March 27, 2006 11:01 AM

pingjing, et al:

Like I said, you asked for it. I loathe politics in general, and I despise what the parties have done to our freedoms. How did you 'ask for it'? By making a thinly veiled reference to your party's current propaganda campaign.

But, as I have said, it's all a case of the pot callng the kettle 'tarnished'. 'Optomistic'? Go for it. So am I, but only to the extent that we still have the right to vote and voice. A choice between a turd in a red tie and a steaming cowpie in a blue tie is no choice at all. That's how they've stolen our dream.

As for "V": I think it has a message, and that the message is an important one for everyone, everywhere, and at any time in human history. Despotism and totalitarianism must be resisted by the people who give governments their power. There are governments in the world today who rule their people with an iron fist of mortal fear. But the U.S. is not Nazi Germany, nor are we akin to any of its ilk in existence around the world today. If you truly believe we are, then it's only proof how thoroughly 'black bagged', how hoodwinked, you have been by your party's propaganda.

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Well put, Zoid. This film is a bit of a wake-up call for the many Americans who don't think their vote makes a difference. A ruler can only rule when he has a majority of the people behind him, whether out of fear or love. If the ruler commits a crime, the people need to stand up and say so. That said, it's not that easy to do, as we've seen in the past.

Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
I appreciate that you tried to be vague in your own little political speech; but you didn't quite succeed.

P.P.S.
pingjing (Julia): When I say, "you have been hoodwinked" or "you must use your vote to change the political system, not just its current figurehead", please understand that I mean anyone who happens to be reading my words, not "you" alone. As my dear, departed Dad used to say, "If the shoe fits, wear it." And if it does not, do not. I have nothing against you personally, and you seem like a gentleperson.
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"That's exactly my point. Exactly. Because you have to wonder: how do the machines know what Tasty Wheat tasted like? Maybe they got it wrong. Maybe what I think Tasty Wheat tasted like actually tasted like oatmeal, or tuna fish. That makes you wonder about a lot of things. You take chicken, for example: maybe they couldn't figure out what to make chicken taste like, which is why chicken tastes like everything." -Mouse, The Matrix

PINGJING

Monday, March 27, 2006 6:38 PM

Zoid,
I realize that not your entire post was directed at me, and I'll try to treat it as such. I do want to clarify, though, that I agree with you - V for Vendetta is a warning against dictatorships, and I don't think the US is a dictatorship. However, I do believe that citizens have a duty to their country, whether that country is led by a dictator or not. And that's what I meant to say with my "political speech," not that US citizens should vote for my party, but that they should make their voices heard. And for the record, I vote libertarian. Unless that's another side of your wooden nickel, you might want to rethink your references to my "party's current propaganda campaign." The only "thinly veiled reference" I was making was to the excessive power invested in the executive branch, regardless of which party holds that seat.

Phew, got that off my chest. Thank you, Zoid, for the kind comment in your postscript. I can genuinely return it - I generally enjoy reading your posts. They are pithy, insightful, often ironic, and always intelligent. I'm sorry if my original vagueness led us to misunderstand each other - that was really just laziness on my part.

Julia

PINGJING

Monday, March 27, 2006 7:05 PM

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Originally posted by ray53208:
i LOVED v for vendetta. its as if someone took a little piece of my heart and then gave it back to me as a beautifully crafted gift.

i loved it that much.

moore as a standard practice always divorces himself from the movie versions of what he has written. league of underwhelming gentleposuers made that a neccessary act.

after reading the graphic novel i feel that the movie is faithful to it. to me it represents an evolution and a refinment of the idea to a new medium.

ray

“With the first link the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, changes us all irrevokably. The first time any man’s freedom is trodden on, we are all damaged."

I felt the same way about the movie the night I saw it. I was afraid my expectations were too high, but there wasn't any point in the movie where I felt disappointed. I've since come down from that high - or the movie has come down slightly from the pedestal I put it on - but I still love it.

I read an article about Moore in the New York Times, which made it sound like he distances himself from the movies just to be contrary. I don't know that that's true. But I understand the inclination to not want his name connected to them. Adaptations are really a different animal. I would never judge an adaptation based on its accuracy, but on how well it interprets the meaning behind the book. I'll have to hold off judgement on that until I read Moore's novels...but one thing does strike me as off, just from reading about the graphic novels in Wikipedia:

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At the end, when everyone is taking off their masks and proudly watching Big Ben burst into flame, it comes off as a victory for V, and for the people. I'm not so sure it is, seeing as how the country no longer has a leader and could very well plunge into anarchy. Not to mention, blowing things up isn't necessarily a good solution. That ambiguity is conveyed much better in the graphic novels, from what I've read about them.

For those that are interested, here's the link to the entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta

Julia

TOPGUN

Monday, March 27, 2006 8:02 PM

I too loved the movie

You Can't take the sky from me

ZEEK

Monday, March 27, 2006 8:46 PM

I liked the movie. Didn't love it.

Some of the things were just too unbelievable.

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First and foremost being that the council people were never fired or killed. V was running around causing problems for a year and you're telling me not one head began to roll?

The whole fake imprisonment didn't work for me either. You're telling me she never realized only one guy was there the whole time?

Then there was the government that couldn't stop V. Seriously they have cameras everywhere and they can't just follow V home with them?

There's just no way one man could do all of that.

The message was good though.

ZOID

Monday, March 27, 2006 9:51 PM

pingjing wrote:

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Zoid,
I realize that not your entire post was directed at me, and I'll try to treat it as such. I do want to clarify, though, that I agree with you - V for Vendetta is a warning against dictatorships, and I don't think the US is a dictatorship. However, I do believe that citizens have a duty to their country, whether that country is led by a dictator or not. And that's what I meant to say with my "political speech," not that US citizens should vote for my party, but that they should make their voices heard. And for the record, I vote libertarian. Unless that's another side of your wooden nickel, you might want to rethink your references to my "party's current propaganda campaign." The only "thinly veiled reference" I was making was to the excessive power invested in the executive branch, regardless of which party holds that seat.

Phew, got that off my chest. Thank you, Zoid, for the kind comment in your postscript. I can genuinely return it - I generally enjoy reading your posts. They are pithy, insightful, often ironic, and always intelligent. I'm sorry if my original vagueness led us to misunderstand each other - that was really just laziness on my part.

Julia

Groovy.

Send me a link to the Libertarian website you most often habituate. You may get a convert.

v/r,
-zed

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