Windows Linux or Mac?

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TIGER

Sunday, March 26, 2006 1:14 AM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Basically, once you set it up, it's just setup, and it will just run. With windows, in my experience, though it is setup quickly in the begining, it's constant maintenance, in the long run, will require far more time that a Linux/*BSD box. Not to mention the fact that I've yet to see a windows box that can run for a week under any kind of load (even if it's just one constant process).

Really? Am I so unusual? I regularly leave my pc running for a week or more while downlo - er, watching legal DVDs.

And while it's true Windows is easy to install/setup, I can't remember ever having to do any kind of 'maintennace' to keep it running. Any problems I've ever had were usually caused by crappy hardware or software, as far as I can tell.

SIGMANUNKI

Sunday, March 26, 2006 1:32 AM

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Originally posted by Tiger:

Really? Am I so unusual? I regularly leave my pc running for a week or more while downlo - er, watching legal DVDs.

And while it's true Windows is easy to install/setup, I can't remember ever having to do any kind of 'maintennace' to keep it running. Any problems I've ever had were usually caused by crappy hardware or software, as far as I can tell.

Well, that's just my experience.

I have read on a comment to a torr... web forum posting, that someone has an average uptime of about a month with a modern windows machine.

Still a far cry for my 210+ days without so much as a hiccup (*knocks on wood* as I know Murphy is listening

).

That being said, if you don't know the limits of the uptime on your computer because you shut it off before it reaches it, having a machine capable of a longer uptime is rather moot. Basically, if your box is capable of staying up as long as you need it to be, then super

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RETROVERTIGO

Sunday, March 26, 2006 4:34 PM

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Originally posted by sneaker98:
Pfft, stealing from a thief doesn't really count. (If you're referring to PARC here)

Looks like someone at Vista had their eyes on Looking Glass, to me. Perhaps it's just my imagination.

"I do the job... and then I get paid. Go run your little world."
-Malcolm Reynolds

Ya think?

SNEAKER98

Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:25 PM

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Originally posted by retrovertigo:
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Originally posted by sneaker98:
Pfft, stealing from a thief doesn't really count. (If you're referring to PARC here)

Looks like someone at Vista had their eyes on Looking Glass, to me. Perhaps it's just my imagination.

"I do the job... and then I get paid. Go run your little world."
-Malcolm Reynolds

Ya think?

I didn't realize a lot of folks knew about Looking Glass! Used to be Sun's little pony. Partly the reason I started trying out Solaris, was to see what this company could do.

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Originally posted by Tiger:
Really? Am I so unusual? I regularly leave my pc running for a week or more while downlo - er, watching legal DVDs.

And while it's true Windows is easy to install/setup, I can't remember ever having to do any kind of 'maintennace' to keep it running. Any problems I've ever had were usually caused by crappy hardware or software, as far as I can tell.

Nope, you're not so unusual. That's the experience of 99% of WinXP users.

"I do the job... and then I get paid. Go run your little world."
-Malcolm Reynolds

SIGMANUNKI

Sunday, March 26, 2006 7:48 PM

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Originally posted by sneaker98:

That's the experience of 99% of WinXP users.

How presumptuous of you to say.

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SNEAKER98

Sunday, March 26, 2006 7:57 PM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Quote:
Originally posted by sneaker98:

That's the experience of 99% of WinXP users.

How presumptuous of you to say.

Yep. I don't really stand for the crap that folks who barely use the OS say about it. There's plenty of legitimate reasons for hating WinXP; pick a real one, and not a grandios exaggeration.

If you're using it for home or office use, and not installing all kinds of crap, you're not going to have problems like the "M$ bashers" claim you'll have. Of course, they're the ones to gain by MS losing its OS majority, so why do you think they're saying this kind of stuff?

"I do the job... and then I get paid. Go run your little world."
-Malcolm Reynolds

SIGMANUNKI

Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:17 PM

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Originally posted by sneaker98:

and not a grandios exaggeration.

You said, "That's the experience of 99% of WinXP users." and you're charging me with a "grandios exaggreation"?

Basically, where's your support? Or do you know all the XP users so you can make this claim?

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Originally posted by sneaker98:

If you're using it for home or office use, and not installing all kinds of crap, you're not going to have problems like the "M$ bashers" claim you'll have. Of course, they're the ones to gain by MS losing its OS majority, so why do you think they're saying this kind of stuff?

I reference /. with a lot of references to benchmarks, etc that show such things that you don't seem to want to admit to.

Sorry man, but the actual independent studies show differently. Especially when it comes to servers.

You also seem to be assuming that the non-profits that comprise the majority of Linux/*BSD community will actually gain something.

Here's the point, it is a free OS. So, what are people actually going to gain in the end if M$ loses its majority? Certainly not money. So, what then?

But, if not the OS itself, what about the software that runs on it? Again, mostly free and opensource. So what do they gain? Again, certainly not money.

You're claim lacks even motivation.

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

SNEAKER98

Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:28 PM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Quote:
Originally posted by sneaker98:

and not a grandios exaggeration.

You said, "That's the experience of 99% of WinXP users." and you're charging me with a "grandios exaggreation"?

Basically, where's your support? Or do you know all the XP users so you can make this claim?

I believe I charged you with general jackassery in a previous post, and it still holds. For instance, you just made a windows XP user feel like a freak of nature above because he didn't have the damning problems you claimed you had when you used it.

I think it's much more on your head to prove that WinXP really does crash on everyone at the fault of Microsoft, then my claim that it doesn't unless you install something stupid. Big suprise. Oh, I read your post saying it was "just your experience", but we all know what you're getting at.

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Quote:
Originally posted by sneaker98:

If you're using it for home or office use, and not installing all kinds of crap, you're not going to have problems like the "M$ bashers" claim you'll have. Of course, they're the ones to gain by MS losing its OS majority, so why do you think they're saying this kind of stuff?

I reference /. with a lot of references to benchmarks, etc that show such things that you don't seem to want to admit to.

Sorry man, but the actual independent studies show differently. Especially when it comes to servers.

You also seem to be assuming that the non-profits that comprise the majority of Linux/*BSD community will actually gain something.

Here's the point, it is a free OS. So, what are people actually going to gain in the end if M$ loses its majority? Certainly not money. So, what then?

But, if not the OS itself, what about the software that runs on it? Again, mostly free and opensource. So what do they gain? Again, certainly not money.

You're claim lacks even motivation.

The gain? You're actually asking me what kind of gain there is?

Hmm. Lets see. Build an OS, and they will come. But, if they're all tied up on Microsoft's ball field, they're not going to come.

And how about driver support?
And how about software support?
etc. etc.

Or, did you feel like pretending I only meant financial gain just to try to make me look like an ignorant ass?

Yep, I figured. By the way, if you have to have a disclaimer above your post such as,

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
[k, I don't have the time to proof this post, so the disclaimer is that if you read an aggressive tone or some such, it is not intended. It's just because I'm currently in a hurry and didn't have time to check and modify.

then you probably need to look into what the heck you're posting.

"I do the job... and then I get paid. Go run your little world."
-Malcolm Reynolds

SIGMANUNKI

Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:34 PM

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Originally posted by sneaker98:

I believe I charged you with general jackassery in a previous post, and it still holds. For instance, you just made a windows XP user feel like a freak of nature above because he didn't have the damning problems you claimed you had when you used it.

I think it's much more on your head to prove that WinXP really does crash on everyone at the fault of Microsoft, then my claim that it doesn't unless you install something stupid. Big suprise. Oh, I read your post saying it was "just your experience", but we all know what you're getting at.

I have stated that in my (and everyone I know) experience(s), windows behaves extremely poorly. I have even pointed to a site there there are a lot of references that support my claims. Or didn't you read that far in my posts?

You, well you've failed to do that in any way shape or form.

Also, where do you get the audacity to describe the feelings of Tiger? (S)he only mentioned that (s)he didn't experience the problems that I described. There was nothing in his/her post that even remotely implies that (s)he felt like "a freak of nature."

If you have a problem with me, fine. But, don't distorte reality so that you can use others as pawns in your vendetta against me.

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

And how about driver support?
And how about software support?
etc. etc.

The free OS's already have good driver support. And this, almost all through reverse engineering and sharing of code.

They already have enough free opensource software to be alternatives to windows. What software do people really need that isn't availible? For general use, nothing.

So, your point here, no dice.

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

Or, did you feel like pretending I only meant financial gain just to try to make me look like an ignorant ass?

Yep, I figured.

You again put words and my mouth and make baseless assumptions.

My point was that since there is more than enough high quality free software for Linux/*BSD, driver support, etc that this cannot be a motivator. Especially since the GNU foundation is completely against closed source things.

If you don't believe me, lookup the various ports trees, rpm/deb/etc archives, and supported hardware lists for the various OSS OS projects.

Please note that close souce things is pretty much the only thing that a corp would make. Please note that if a corp did make something for Linux/*BSD in this fashion, that you'd be certain in short order, to see an opensource project started. And if it had any real need in the community, this project would flurish. If not, it wouldn't. But, then again, the commercial product would then pretty much die as well.

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

By the way, if you have to have a disclaimer above your post such as,

Quote:
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

[k, I don't have the time to proof this post, so the disclaimer is that if you read an aggressive tone or some such, it is not intended. It's just because I'm currently in a hurry and didn't have time to check and modify.

then you probably need to look into what the heck you're posting.

Perhaps. But, if you would have read the disclaimer itself, then you'd realize the reason for doing it. And referencing all my previous posts, here and else where, this is hardly a common occurence.

I'll also point out that you are the only one that seems to have a problem with it. And if the person that I was replying to didn't have a problem with it, why are you trying to make it an issue?

Basically, I find you a petty, small, narrow minded person that can't let go of being proven wrong on so many accounts. You also don't seem capable of letting go of any offense that I might have given you in this thread even when I apologized for it.

I hoped that you would be grown enough to put this behind you. But, you clearly aren't.

In a

CITIZEN

Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:51 PM

In other news:

I've installed Ubuntu on my Laptop and I'm very impressed, the installation was easier than Windows XP, setting up the wireless and wired networks was a breeze (no drivers even, put XP to shame) even interfacing with my windows network was easier than getting my Windows machines to do it (seriously...).

However...

ATI graphics drivers for my Mobillity 9600 won't even install, I've downloaded them, tried it myself, followed the readmes, the release notes, the community everything but no dice. It complains that the dependencies aren't there, in Windows I'd fix that in seconds, but I'm not so hot on Linux, anyone got any ideas?

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