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Friday, March 24, 2006 10:23 PM

a little bit that i like ...

In the pilot 'Serenity' when Inara is talking to her client at the very beginning of the episode about home and where she has come from there is a shot of her looking away mournfully while her dialogue continues to show her inner feelings, that she's conflicted and not truely believing what she's saying. it sums up Inara beautfully.



"Dear diary: Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy. Today we were kidnapped by hill folk, never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."

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Friday, March 24, 2006 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by Nandifan:
In the very last scene with Inara, when she tells Mal she doesn't know if she wants to leave, she has absolutely no makeup on. I have to go back through the shows, but I think that is the first time she has ever been on with no makeup. It was like she was giving up being a Companion. Again, I have to double check, and if I am wrong, please let me know.



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Is it really that clear when a girl is or isn't wearing makeup? Half the time I can't tell. Then again most women I know personally make a point to apply makeup in subtle ways so it doesn't really look like they've applied anything.


In theatrical parlance, that's called "basic corrective". A little foundation here, a little concealer there, maybe a hint of blush and powderpowderpowder. You look "natural" but you've been... made better.

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Friday, March 24, 2006 10:43 PM

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Some big emperor guy defeats the 3-4 different parts of China (not then called China), unifies it and names it "This Land" (China), then some other guy betrays him and takes over. A bit sketchy, I know, but it's all I can remember from the TV...


In the English-dubbed version of the movie Hero, it's shown as "Our Land". However, the actual translation is "All Under Heaven." Either way, the name is meant to connote unity.

So... it doesn't really correlate to Firefly.

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Friday, March 24, 2006 11:32 PM

My very good, reliable and CHINESE friend told me it's "This Land"...May I add that fact he is Chinese...

She'll turn you in before you can say "Don't turn me in...lady..."

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:59 PM

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Originally posted by GreatBlackthorn:
My very good, reliable and CHINESE friend told me it's "This Land"...May I add that fact he is Chinese...



We're both wrong. (Not about the weird translation in Hero- that happened, but I mistook the term "all under heaven" for the actual name.)

From http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/China_-_Terminology/id/1299954

"China - Zhongguo. China is called Zhongguo in Mandarin Chinese (Simplified: 中国, Traditional: 中國; also romanized as Jhongguo or Chung-kuo), which is usually translated as "Middle Kingdom", but could also be translated as "Central State" or "Central Country". Zhong (中) means "middle" or "center" while guo (国 or 國) means "country," "kingdom," "state," or "land", referring to the claim that China stood at the centre of that society's "known world""

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Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:02 AM

...I'm gonna slap Ping next time I see him...

(his name really is Ping, don't be mocking now)

Are you sure it can't be viewed in different ways? Chinese words are very open to interpretation...

She'll turn you in before you can say "Don't turn me in...lady..."

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Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:34 AM

Whome:
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"China - Zhongguo. China is called Zhongguo in Mandarin Chinese (Simplified: 中国, Traditional: 中國; also romanized as Jhongguo or Chung-kuo), which is usually translated as "Middle Kingdom", but could also be translated as "Central State" or "Central Country". Zhong (中) means "middle" or "center" while guo (国 or 國) means "country," "kingdom," "state," or "land", referring to the claim that China stood at the centre of that society's "known world""
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Does this mean it could be translated loosely as "Middle Earth?"

(*ducks out of the way*)

I've been waiting for someone to correct Mistressahara about her confusing the Captain's pull-down toilet with his pull-down desk, but it hasn't happened in about a mile of thread, so here's my oar stuck in...

Love these observations in general, and have been sent back to my DVDs (oh, sheesh, do I have to watch this AGAIN?) several times to look for SR-71s and so on.

Anybody ever do a blooper thread here? I'm interested in why the Captain's cut-off ear switches sides in one shot -- can't see a reason why they'd have needed to flip the picture.


bun
-- bastards singed my turtle --
----- why's the rum gone? -----

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Monday, March 27, 2006 8:50 PM

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Originally posted by GreatBlackthorn:
...I'm gonna slap Ping next time I see him...

(his name really is Ping, don't be mocking now)

Are you sure it can't be viewed in different ways? Chinese words are very open to interpretation...

She'll turn you in before you can say "Don't turn me in...lady..."



Slap...ping... hee hee. You did that on purpose!

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Monday, March 27, 2006 9:32 PM

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Originally posted by WhoMe:
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"China - Zhongguo. China is called Zhongguo in Mandarin Chinese (Simplified: 中国, Traditional: 中國; also romanized as Jhongguo or Chung-kuo), which is usually translated as "Middle Kingdom", but could also be translated as "Central State" or "Central Country". Zhong (中) means "middle" or "center" while guo (国 or 國) means "country," "kingdom," "state," or "land", referring to the claim that China stood at the centre of that society's "known world""



Ping might actually still be right... I remember hearing China referred to as the Middle Kingdom, but the word China means something different, doesn't it? As far as I know, our name for the country comes from the first dynasty to unite China, which someone already mentioned, the Qin dynasty. So maybe Ping was talking about the Western name for China, rather than the Chinese version.

Another observation to add to the mix:
I was thinking about Wash's death today, and I realized that Mal has twice saved Zoey's life. Once in the beginning of the pilot, when he tackled her to get them both out of the range of the Alliance plane careening towards them. And once towards the end of the BDM, when he grabbed her away from Wash so that the Reavers wouldn't impale her too. There's a nice circularity to that.

Julia

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:54 AM

I noticed something when watching "Trash", in the alliance guy's collection room, there's a 20th century phone box in there, which I found cool for some wierd reason...I was pointing at the screen and saying "Look!" until my Dad got angry...

She'll turn you in before you can say "Don't turn me in...lady..."

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