Jayne and Kaylee

POSTED BY: Leiasky
UPDATED: Sunday, April 23, 2006 18:15
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MAL4PREZ

Friday, March 24, 2006 7:59 PM

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Originally posted by Burkesongs:
Aren't we forgetting some of the recurring characters? I'm thinking Saffron myself... Saffron & Jayne. Hmmm... It'd be just the kind of weird pairing that Joss is good at.

I mean, look at Buffy & Spike, or Xander & Faith on Buffy, or Fred and, well, EVERYBODY on Angel...

Joss is fond of redeeming 'evil' characters and making them one of the good guys (Spike being the most blatant turn-around). Saffron could be Miss Right for Jayne... or more likely Miss 'Right Now' (heh-heh)...

Just an odd take on the Jayne lovelife subject...

"I am a leaf on the wind..."

Hmmm, very interesting. There wasn't much Jayne/Saffron interplay in the series, but I could totally see it happening eventually...

good one!

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LEIASKY

Friday, March 24, 2006 10:46 PM

Very interesting reading everyone's comments! Thanks for taking the time. I suppose I could post about how I see Jayne, as it is quite a contrast from how the jaylee shippers see him.

I'll refrain from commenting about Simon, because I don't want this to become a 'whose better' thread.

I just don't see anything but a brother/sister type relationship between Jayne and Kaylee. The 'wishes you was a gynecologist' comment strikes me more as something an older brother would say to a little sister to rile her up. Not as jealousy that she's so interested in someone new.

Mal and Jayne seem to me to exhibit the same attitude toward Kaylee. Protective because she could be easily taken advantage of. She's young, she's innocent and not 'worldly' like they are.

Someone mentioned the basketball thing and the familiarity and trust in climbing up on Jayne's shoulders. I see that just as two friends/siblings playing a game.

>In "Ariel", Kaylee goes to check on Jayne's injuries before she checks on River. That's noteworthy.

Wonder how Kaylee would feel when/if she learned Jayne turned Simon and River in.

"A government is a body of people usually notably ungoverned."

WHOME

Friday, March 24, 2006 10:55 PM

Oh, Jayne's definitely got a wee bit of a crush on Kaylee, but Kaylee does not have a wee bit of a crush on Jayne.

LEIGHKOHL

Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:13 AM

While I like Jayne, I think he is a wonderful comic foil that has deeper emotions than he lets on, I just don't see the Jaylee connection. Though it was admitted that Jayne may have a little crush on Kaylee, there was no part in the series that I saw as it being recipricated by Kaylee. They definitely had a brother/sister relationship, and maybe Jayne felt a little more, but not all crushes come to fruition. Not only that, I think Kaylee would be very upset with Jayne if she did find out about him turning in River and Simon on Ariel. Not that she doesn't have a forgiving heart, but it could cloud her opinion of Jayne just a bit. Kaylee is nothing if not fiercely loyal. There's also something of an age difference between them, about twenty years or so. Not that that is a large determining factor but I think Jayne may need some one with a bit more years and a lot more attitude to keep him in check. It's no secret that I am a Simon/Kaylee shipper, their romantic entanglements are something that could have been explored more in depth on the series. Who knows, Jayne may have been a factor in some complications with their relationship, but no one ever has a happy ending in Jossland. So while I can admit there could have been other pairings, like maybe even Simon and Inara (Mal is quite the stubborn fool and I did see some inklings of at least a little crush on Inara from Simon), I feel like we can only guess at what could have been. For my part, I like Jayne and Kaylee in the brother/sister relatoinship, it's what holds true for me from the series and movie.:D

SQUISH

Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:04 AM

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Originally posted by Leiasky:
Wonder how Kaylee would feel when/if she learned Jayne turned Simon and River in.

And *that* would have been a very interesting story to see! It's also something that Jaylee fanfic writers have dealt with in their work. It's interesting to see how each handles it a bit differently, particularly the ones who describe Kaylee understanding why Jayne did it even better than Jayne himself knows (which is quite plausible).

I'll admit to being a big Jaylee fan. I watched the series when it originally aired, and without the benefit of commentaries from Joss or even any input from sites like this, I saw that there might have been something there. I'll also admit that I have no problem with canon pairings, but I personally don't think Kaylee and Simon would last (agree with Jacqui above, especially about the class differences). Now Kaylee and Jayne aren't the perfect couple either, but that can make for a good story.

The thing I love about fanfic is that a good author can draw you in and make you believe in a pairing that you had never thought of before. Right at the moment Kaynara has me completely convinced of Kaylee/Simon and Jacqui has me completely convinced of Kaylee/Jayne. Heck, I even read a Simon/Jayne fic once that was completely believable, and I can't imagine two more unlikely people in a relationship! The thing is to read the fic with an open mind and if you ultimately don't like it, it's okay, but it is the author's right to work in whatever manner they wish and as they are putting their creative spirits on the line (so to speak), they shouldn't be criticized for that. (Okay except for the crazy space incest stuff, I just don't get that! Except, I guess, as a literary exercise, but still...).

Of course ultimately, it's hard to tell what Joss would have done with this motley crew in a series format (I mean other than torture their souls and kill them off one at a time).

Just my two cents,
squish

EVILDINOSAUR

Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:48 PM

I would never want to see that lol, it's just not right. I think somebody in here said it would bring out the softer side of jayne, I don't want jayne to have a softer side lol, I like him just the way he is.

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MEGMAC

Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:37 PM

TBH I've never thought about the prospect of a Jayne/Kaylee get-together. They are too comfortable with each other for there to be any attraction, they really are like brother and sister or too close to even think about the other in that way.

I will go and check out some of the aforementioned fanfics though.

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DEWFPD

Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:08 PM

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Originally posted by Persephone736:
Yeah, and I think in the commentary Joss says something about him having a little crush on Kaylee. I'm not certain but I think that's what he says.

Maybe thats why he dislikes Simon so much..jealousy

NATEM

Sunday, March 26, 2006 3:13 AM

A note on the Anara/Simon thing. I think in Out Of Gas commentary director Tim Minear hints at something like this when Anara and Simon are talking about how they thought they were going to die. Also this wasn't necessarily ruined by the movie. I think it would be interesting to find out that the only reason Simon went to Kaylee was because Anara left. Even though she was back it was only supposed to be for a short time and he just moved on. If she were to stay that could create some interesting tension and reopen all the other possibilities like Jayne and Kaylee.

GINGER08

Sunday, March 26, 2006 4:10 AM

Yea, i had never really thought about Jayne and Kaylee together before this thread..

You've got me athinkn' I really do like that idea. Simon and Kaylee always seemed "too right" if that's possible. They seem the obvious choice.

Thanks for opening my eyes to the world of Jaylee.

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