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who should be new pilot of serenity?

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Friday, March 24, 2006 8:19 PM

I thought it was pretty clear from the BDM that River was the new pilot.

Though, if the 'verse continues, I would imagine we'll meet a new crew member, I just don't think they'll be pilot. Bringing in a new character opens up a lot of opprotunities for new plots, relationships and character interactions. Just bringing in a "new Wash" (either a clone or a simmilar character) would serve little purpose.



And on another note, I can't believe there are still people who think River was re-captured, or that Serenity was the ship in the opening escape. Jeez folks, Joss shot that one down quite a while ago. It's a flashback. Yes, is contradicts things said in the pilot to a degree, but those inconsistencies can be justified pretty easily. That was River's original, and only escape from the Alliance. Deal and move on.

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RAE
Friday, March 24, 2006 8:55 PM

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but.... I can see a scenerio like this:

River still holds a lot of secrets that the alliance does not want out. Also, as long as she's on the loose, she's a danger to them, if for no other reason than she is a witness/product of what they have done.

So, the Alliance goes to Miranda, finds Wash's body, and clones him. But, they, being the purplebelly scum that they are, tamper with him, programing him as a spy. So, when he rejoins our heroes, he is actually an alliance spy, probably without even knowing it. This can lead to all sorts of adventures, including one where they finally realize what is going on, fix his brain, and we have our favorite pilot back

Rae

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Friday, March 24, 2006 9:05 PM

'Cept clones don't get the memories of the original.

Joss has written one clone story so far (Alien 4), and had to stretch for a way to explain Ripley's clone having memories - which was tied to Alien DNA, and the chemical/ancestral memory sometimes found in insects. And even then, she had only spotty memories.

And given how that one turned out, I don't expect Joss is in a hurry to write another clone story.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, March 24, 2006 10:14 PM

NoSadSeven said:

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They escape on Serenity, (you can see it fly off from the top of the hatch, with exactly the same method used in "The Train Job") yet they first got on Serenity in Persephone, when River was in her cryo-chamber. Therefore, they were already crew members, so River must have been recaptured.


Nope- that wasn't Serenity. (I did assume it was, too, but I hadn't seen Firefly yet!) I know I read an article somewhere that had Joss stating that it was definitely not Serenity. After I got the backstory, I assumed that the ship belonged to the "underground" that helped Simon break River out. If Joss said that Simon lied about the underground, then so be it, but he still had to pay someone to fly that ship!

But it's still plausible that the ship belonged to the underground resistance, and that Simon stuck River in the box so she wouldn't be seen until they were far away from the academy. (Or, to confuse anyone who was looking for a fugitive brother and sister, Simon went to whatever planet that was on his own, and the underground shipped River to him... but that's needlessly complicated.) That's my fan wank!

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Friday, March 24, 2006 10:15 PM

Art is liable to interpretation, and my interpreation makes me happy...So...Yeah...>_>

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:12 AM

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Originally posted by WhoMe:
NoSadSeven said:

Actually, GreatBlackthorn said. I was just quoting (and refuting).
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If Joss said that Simon lied about the underground, then so be it, but he still had to pay someone to fly that ship!
I believe the implication was that he lied (by omission) about the extent of his personal involvement, not the underground entirely, so...yeah. Exactly right. I subscribe to the same fanwank you do.

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:34 AM

Oughta be a man, methinks. And the first guy who comes to mind is Chris Gorham (Jake 2.0).

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:52 AM

I agree about River. She has the aptitude and with her learning curve was probably better at flying than Mal or Zoe within a week of the end scene.

But I also think we need another character, if not another BDH. With both Book and Wash gone, we've lost Mal's outside conscience. Both of those characters were used at one time or another to provide a check on his more vengeful instincts. Book was great at it. I thought Wash was a little more uncomfortable in that role in the movie. Too much "But Mal", not enough "fry cook opportunity".

Plus we need somebody who can take Zoe's place for off-ship adventures cuz no way they're going to leave River alone in charge of the ship. Even with Kaylee and Simon on board - definitely not enough "holding the fort" in their psyches. So how about another former Browncoat comrade of Mal's? Maybe not in the same unit but also a survivor of Serenity Valley? Someone who was changed opposite to Mal - became more certain of a God rather than less. And who is reliable enuf to either take with or leave back, but who has his own agenda nowadays. Someone similar to a younger JT Walsh. Or maybe Luke Wilson, who can be serious or comic as the need arises.

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by Rob150185:
I'd pay good money to see what Jayne would be capable of, pilot-wise.

That'd be a hoot!




LOL. too many buttons for Jayne

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:01 PM

the ship that rescued simon and river isn't the serenity, it lacks the 2 side engines and it's too small.

i thought it was the serenity too until i started watching firefly.


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