Red Dawn FOR REAL: Charlie Sheen questions official 9/11 conspiracy theory - Is Joss Irish?

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WILDIGSTART

Friday, March 24, 2006 7:45 PM

Oooo! Someone else from out there?

always knew Chisisall was special

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DREAMTROVE

Friday, March 24, 2006 7:51 PM

Citizen. within reason, as long as it affects socio economic status. sure, just as whites, and for that matter all blacks who aren't bushmen, are the guest population in africa.

If the idea of second, third, etc. generation immigrants was as absurd as you say, they it wouldn't be in the language. I know where you're coming from, but what you are missing is that the rule of "any group born here has equal right" mandates the conclusion "Hey everyone, crank out a baby quick so you can take over the Earth." The fact is, populations have homelands which they live in, and when, on a species level, one group decides it wants another group's land, it does just that, and then conflict ensues.

What you completely fail to see is your simple egalitarian logic flies in the face of human animal territorial instincts, and because of that creates war, genocide etc, which is why the left is so adept at creating these things.

As it stands, sure, a lot of groups have already invaded someone else's territories and a peaceful solution other than ethnic cleansing is needed. But ignoring it does not make it go away. Rwanda/Burundi happened because of this sort of thiing, this is the problem in N. Irealand and so many other places in the world. Very soon it will be a serious problem with muslims in Europe.

Just because you fail to recognize that these forces and problems exist does not prevent them from adversely affecting your life and everyone elses. If anyone has been paying any attention, this is the main issue with Osama Bin Laden. He feels, as many others do, that the guest population of palestine, the Israelis, though born there, do not have a right to be there. Many others such as Iran and Hamas feel that they have a right to be there if and only if they agree to live by the laws of the land which preceded them.

Here in America, as I pointed out somewhere, we live by a code, the constitution, which actually technically preceded us. We live by this rule, and because we do, we now live in relative peace, but if our ancestors, even though they were born here, had had more respect for the indians, and the fact that they were born on what was essentially indian land, there would have been a lot less bloodshed.

In Northern Ireland, the green response is very much a territorial one by the more native longer standing population who are ethnically more celtic, if marginally so, than the guest population scottish and english and more teutonic, with less of a history in the area. If societies and groups of people did not behave in this manner, they would be overrun, and replaced, and thus not exist. It's simple evolution in action.

PIRATENEWS

Friday, March 24, 2006 8:09 PM

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Originally posted by SimonF:

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Originally posted by piratenews:

Is Joss Irish? That would explain his hatred of the British Empire's Divided Kingdom. Northern Ireland has been under martial law for how many decades/centuries?

I live in Northern Ireland. We're not under martial law. And the majority of people in Northern Ireland want to remain part of the United Kingdom. And to be honest a lot of people in the Republic aren't that bothered about re-unification. And Joss is an Anglophile btw.

So you're what they call a "Loyalist"? Your ancestors are not Irish, but English? You're what we called "Carpetbaggers" after the US Civil War. I was a Carpetbagger in Germany for a year, and Bicester England for 8 years, from 1984 to 1993. I remember many news broadcasts of Irish youths gunned down at military checkpoints, as well as tit-for-tat "terrorists" serial killings of innocent youths for daring to make out in parked cars with persons of a rival "Christian" religion. That would be wonderful if that martial law and civil war has ended, tho now the evil enemy is replaced by fake Arab terrorists employed by MI6. Just like the fake Jewish bomber Goldstein was employed by the "British" Empire in Orwell's 1984.

What do you call hardened military checkpoints with British soldiers, that open fire with machine guns and full auto, that KILL all Irish drivers and passengers who fail to stop for checkpoints. Usually for misdemeanor joyriding, not "terrorism". Just like British and US troops massacres entire families in Iraq, who fail to slow down at military checkpoints. That's MARTIAL LAW.

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The troubles in Northern Ireland are rooted deep in history and are very complex. The recent troubles started in August 1969 with rioting in Londonderry and the Government deployed troops onto the streets as a temporary measure to assist the Royal Ulster Constabulary restore order. Over thirty years later they are still there.

During the early years the troops were welcomed by the Catholic population who saw them as their protectors from Protestants. However, by the early 1970’s the pace of life had become fast and furious, with shootings and bombings almost a daily occurrence, and rioting most nights. As time has gone by, tactics and equipment have developed and the terrorist tactic became deliberate, planned ‘spectacular’ attacks rather than random and sporadic incidents. The Security Forces’ role became that of long hours of routine patrolling and guarding bases, punctuated by short spells of incidents and intense activity.

To date, the Regiment has undertaken 20 tours of duty in Ulster ranging from two to twenty-four months. In addition, many Coldstreamers have served attached to other units as either individuals or small sub-units, and over the years many have served attached to Special Forces units or the Guards Independent Parachute Company which undertook several tours prior to its disbandment in 1975. No7 and No8 Companies are incremental companies which carried the colours of the 2nd Bn. They have both deployed to the Province with either the Scots Guards or the Royal Gloucestershire, Berkshire & Wiltshire Regiment (RGBW).

www.shinycapstar.com/northernireland.htm

Same thing USA now has in New Orleans, thanks to King George II. US soldiers and Blackwater CIA, not National Guard (who are not banned by Posse Committatus Act since they are not fed govt), pointing full-auto machine guns at lawabiding US citizens lawfully in their own homes, and kidnapping them at gunpoint. Habeas Corpus has been suspended in New Orleans, with no courts and no trials for prisoners for all crimes, just like in US Civil War. Mexican army is on US soil in New Orleans, just like the British War of 1812, when the British Empire bombed New Orleans - then got it's butt kicked by General/President Andrew Jackson.

http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/ross/archive

CITIZEN

Friday, March 24, 2006 8:49 PM

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You see that weapon he's carrying; it’s called an L1A1 SLR, or Self Loading Rifle, the British version of the Belgium FN FAL. They were standard Issue in the British army until 1985 when they were replaced by the Enfield SA80 (Small Arms for the 1980's). So we can determine from that that your image proving your argument is at the very least 21 years old. Judging by the quality of the image and the clothing of the soldier and the civilians I'd guess mid to late seventies.

This proves that Ireland is under martial law now how exactly?

I even had to correct your mad ranting, remember that? I had to tell you it was MI5 you were talking about not MI6? You’re a nut and a moron, maybe one day you'll realise that, or you'll be sectioned, either way is fine by me you drivelling idiot. You can't even get the basics right so anyone should trust any of your unsupported 'facts' why?

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Soon to be posted by PirateNews:
You would say that Commie-Nazi-Illuminati-Jew from Alpha Centari! If you knew anything you'd know the Commie-Nazi-Alien-Jews came down in their bugger ships and went Blargal-gargle moogle boogle and then everyone went moomy doomy nooby blarble and then there was lights and chickens and snazwatches from glarble 5!

Oh and BTW you don't own the shinycapstar.com website so how about you be slightly less of an Arsehole and stop stealling other peoples bandwidth by hotlinking to their images.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

CITIZEN

Friday, March 24, 2006 9:06 PM

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Originally posted by Dreamtrove:
What you completely fail to see is your simple egalitarian logic flies in the face of human animal territorial instincts, and because of that creates war, genocide etc, which is why the left is so adept at creating these things.

Glad too see your making up what my argument is for me rather than understand what I'm actually saying.

Well someday I hope to be as intelligent, knowledgable and impartial as you on every subject, but since I'm only a mere Human I doubt it'll ever happen.

I'm well aware that whenever the Right have created a situation like those you describe it was because they had been taken over by Socialist body snatchers from the planet Commuosa.

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within reason, as long as it affects socio economic status. sure, just as whites, and for that matter all blacks who aren't bushmen, are the guest population in africa.

You mean all Humans, ever. Even the Bushmen claim territory, territory that I can quite confidently say was 'owned' by another tribe before them. That was owned by another tribe before them and so on until we get to a point where the Human race never existed, at which point it was owned by another species. Your argument is stupid, no matter how you dress it up or insinuate that I'm a stupid lefty who doesn't know anything about the real world isn't going to change that, deal with it.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

PIRATENEWS

Friday, March 24, 2006 9:18 PM

FAL is an extremely high-powered rifle, .308 caliber, compared to USA's 22-caliber M-16 piece of crap. VERY deadly weapon to use on unarmed civilians in N Ireland.

Coincidentally, a 9/11 Truth researcher was gunned down in summary execution today, as reported on www.jackblood.com radio show today. Perhaps retaliation from the Shadow Govt?
www.jonesreport.com/articles/member_of_scholars_for_911_truth_killed.h
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I notice that you disinfo operatives always avoid the topic of discussion, since you're unable to debunk facts in evidence.

Back on point. Alex Jones was on CNN today to discuss George Bush Jr perping the 911 terrorist massacres in USA - "BLOODY TUESDAY". Jones also interviewed Charlie Sheen again today. It's a wonderful thing when celebrities speak reality rather than a fantasy script written by someone else, isn't it?! Check www.infowars.com for Sheen's latest interview.

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Charlie Sheen 9/11 Story Goes Viral! Alex Jones appears on CNN, poll says three-quarters plus support Sheen.
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/240306goesviral.htm

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: ALEX JONES ON CNN
Watch Alex's appearance on CNN's Showbiz Tonight in which he not only successfully defends Charlie Sheen but also batters the Globalists with a raft of facts on the 9/11 inside job. Read the transcript by clicking here.
www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_alex_jones_showbiz_tonight_vide
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As of Friday morning you can still vote in the poll and I encourage you to do so by clicking here. A.J. Hammer and CNN Showbiz Tonight need to be given their due as the only mainstream television news show to give balanced coverage of serious 9/11 questions.
www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/showbiz.tonight/
www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_cnn_poll_shows_82_percent_suppo
rt.htm

As for "stealing bandwidth", that only applies to images posted without links. Otherwise it's "free advertising", which is always welcome. And not that many people read FireFlyFans.net, especially the Reality Threads.

My only gripe with Alex Jones is that he was a Republican who was dumb enough to vote for Bush Jr in 2000. At least I backed Arab Semite Ralph Nader in 2000, for 24 hours, until the Knoxville Green Party censored my official website during election week, for daring to post the text of one of Nader's speeches in Knoxville. The local Green Party was infiltrated and run by the Jewish Mishpucka Garbage And Nuke Waste Incineration Mafia at Oak Ridge Nuke Bomb Factories in Tennessee. They refused to run any local candidates, and refused to post a website, which why I volunteered my time during Selection Week.

I only let the people I own use my title.
-Magistrate Higgins, Jaynestown

FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO - VERSION 2
(Mal shoots Fed in the head - as seen on PNTV)
Dobson: You're gonna kill a lawman in cold blood?
Joss, WTF were you THINKING?!
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/8912.php

CITIZEN

Friday, March 24, 2006 9:51 PM

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Originally posted by PirateNews:
FAL is an extremely high-powered rifle, .308 caliber, compared to USA's 22-caliber M-16 piece of crap. VERY deadly weapon to use on unarmed civilians in N Ireland.

Is it nearly time for me too break out the crayons so that you can understand what I'm trying to transmit? Point one FAL not equal SLR. Comparative versions, not the same thing, for a start the SLR used Imperial measurements.

Secondly the SLR was standard Issue. If you had been in the military as you claim you'd know what that meant. It means that's the weapons they carry and had been since 1956. Nothing to do with where or why their deployed, that's what they carry. Now do you need that repeated in crayon or have you got it.

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I notice that you disinfo operatives always avoid the topic of discussion, since you're unable to debunk facts in evidence.

Facts? hahaha! I can't debunk any of your facts because you haven't provided any. All you've done is rant and rave! Figures someone as deluded as yourself would believe that you making things up were facts.

And actually you were saying that Northern Ireland is currently under martial law and using a picture over 20 years old too prove it. Everything I had to say on the matter was relevant, you changing the subject so quickly is very telling

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I notice that you stupid nutcases always avoid backing your arguments with real facts and evidence.

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As for "stealing bandwidth", that only applies to images posted without links. Otherwise it's "free advertising", which is always welcome. And not that many people read FireFlyFans.net, especially the Reality Threads.

As usual you prove your ignorance. What you’re thinking of is linking, which means putting a link to the page the image is on, not the image itself which is hot-linking. Oh and you never provided a link to the host website, so your talking shit again, better look too that.

Oh and frankly you have absolutely no idea how much traffic FFF.net, or the RWED gets, not that it matters.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

OLDENGLANDDRY

Friday, March 24, 2006 9:52 PM

Piratenews

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I notice that you disinfo operatives always avoid the topic of discussion, since you're unable to debunk facts in evidence.

Explain again how the thirty year old picture constitutes facts in evidence?

PIRATENEWS

Friday, March 24, 2006 9:56 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:

You see that weapon he's carrying; it’s called an L1A1 SLR, or Self Loading Rifle, the British version of the Belgium FN FAL.

Oh and BTW you don't own the shinycapstar.com website so how about you be slightly less of an Arsehole and stop stealling other peoples bandwidth by hotlinking to their images.

The name of the JPG image is "1970s". That just means N Ireland WAS under martial law in 1970s. I'm sure there are many more images online, at least until the "end of the Cold War" against fake "Communism" in the 1990s, when the CIA's Afghan freedom fighters were hired to attack the Serbs in Yugoslavia, and to play the patsies for CIA and MI6 on 9/11 and 7/7.

Funny how you attack me (to divert attention from the topic of this thread) for "stealing bandwidth" on that JPG, but then you do the same thing, instead of saving the JPG on your own server and sucking your own bandwidth. Shame on you, Mr MOD! And how come you never identify your real name, and what your job is at British Ministry of Defense? We won't tell anybody, I promise.

I DID post the link to the photo, in the text I posted underneath it. Here it is again:

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The troubles in Northern Ireland are rooted deep in history and are very complex. The recent troubles started in August 1969 with rioting in Londonderry and the Government deployed troops onto the streets as a temporary measure to assist the Royal Ulster Constabulary restore order. Over thirty years later they are still there.

During the early years the troops were welcomed by the Catholic population who saw them as their protectors from Protestants. However, by the early 1970’s the pace of life had become fast and furious, with shootings and bombings almost a daily occurrence, and rioting most nights. As time has gone by, tactics and equipment have developed and the terrorist tactic became deliberate, planned ‘spectacular’ attacks rather than random and sporadic incidents. The Security Forces’ role became that of long hours of routine patrolling and guarding bases, punctuated by short spells of incidents and intense activity.

To date, the Regiment has undertaken 20 tours of duty in Ulster ranging from two to twenty-four months. In addition, many Coldstreamers have served attached to other units as either individuals or small sub-units, and over the years many have served attached to Special Forces units or the Guards Independent Parachute Company which undertook several tours prior to its disbandment in 1975. No7 and No8 Companies are incremental companies which carried the colours of the 2nd Bn. They have both deployed to the Province with either the Scots Guards or the Royal Gloucestershire, Berkshire & Wiltshire Regiment (RGBW).

Tour of Duty:
April 2001 to May 2003
1st Bn Londonderry

During the past thirty-two years, members of the Regiment have been awarded numerous gallantry and meritorious service awards. Sadly, seven Coldstreamers have been killed whilst on duty.

www.shinycapstar.com/northernireland.htm

That sure sounds like martial law to me, as of 2003.

I base my observations on BBC TV transmissions from 1984 to 1993, when I was a legal resident of England, regarding the fact of martial law in N Ireland. Did BBC lie?

CITIZEN

Friday, March 24, 2006 10:01 PM

Yes well done. Which doesn't mean it is now.

Someone who is living there told you that it's not, to that you drag a picture up from the 70's to prove it is. No one is disputing the situation in NI back then, I'm saying it's not like that now, is it Crayon time again?

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Funny how you attack me (to divert attention from the topic of this thread) for "stealing bandwidth" on that JPG, but then you do the same thing, instead of saving the JPG on your own server and sucking your own bandwidth. Shame on you, Mr MOD! And how come you never identify your real name, and what your job is at British Ministry of Defense? We won't tell anybody, I promise.

Again, your ignorance not my problem. Since the image is already on the page posting it again won't result in another Server request or any more bandwidth usage because it's already downloaded and cached. If you remove it from your post I'll do the same. In fact I've done so, your turn.

As for my real name I have done on numerous occassions on this site. I've met people who post here IRL, have you? As for what I do it's none of your buisness, but again I've said it here on this site, so no dice.

I see you deflect the argument on to discussing my name and occupation to prevent yourself from having to admit your wrong.

Get over yourself.

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No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

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