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Wash: Core or Rim Worlder?

POSTED BY: nuclearday
UPDATED: Thursday, April 6, 2006 22:10
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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 4:43 PM

(Well, could be spoilers in here, so I'll warn now. No, not THAT spoiler, but still :)
Okay, maybe there's some canonical info out there that I've missed, but we don't seem to know all that much about Wash's past. (Heck, we ain't even heard the story about how Wash and Zoe ended up hooking up.)

Now I remember in the commentaries, Alan talking about how he'd sort of imagined Wash fought for the 'coats, but was captured and spent the rest of the war doing shadow plays ;p In my mind, I'll go ahead and count that as canon.

Here's my thing: was Wash from the Core planets, or more Rim-ward? 'Cause he always struck me as someone from one of the more sophisticated Core planets who just didn't seem to fit in there. Went to flight school to see the stars, got a chance to get out of the core and never looked back. Anyways, just random meandering...

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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:07 PM

I'd say rimward. More like midrim. He was on an industrialized planet at least, because of the polution. Though when they get to Ariel he really wants to go check it out. If he was from the core and just wanted to get out, you wouldn't think he'd be so happy to be back in a place like home. I think he still looks at the core planets as the promised land. Meaning he was from a middle class planet. At least to me that's what it means.

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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:14 PM

I say core. In Our Mrs. Reynolds as you note he talks about his homeworld' "polution's so thick you couldn't see a one of them." (refering to the stars in the viewscreen.) This to me suggests a large population which suggests a core world.

David

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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:18 PM

I agree with Zeek. He's most likely from a rim planet/moon, possibly a boarder planet. However, he's most likely from a planet more akin to Beaumont from the BDM than than a more "western" rim planet like Shadow, Triumph, or Lilac. As proven through planets like Bellerophon (the rich man rim moon) and Persephone (a strange mix of core-eque civilization and Mal's rough and tumble world), not all rim planets breed cowboys. And, of course, some juggle geese! :-)

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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:00 PM

Beaumonde is known for its pollution according to the RPG so that would be my guess.

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:39 AM

I would say that Wash is from the core worlds.


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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:06 AM

Wash also makes mention of his time in flight school. I doubt you could attend flight school on a rim world.

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:07 AM

I'm thinking close to the core but not true core.

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:30 AM

I don't see Wash as a "pure" core worlder; the core worlds aren't polluted, they're as neatly maintained as a rose garden. I picture them "exporting" their pollution, by placing those industries that still produce pollution (despite cheap fusion power) on designated moons, so that they can brag on how they aren't poisoning their atmosphere.

(You know, like the way people who drive hybrid cars pretend they're reducing pollution, despite the fact that the electricity they recharge their batteries with is still generated by burning fossil fuels somewhere. If it ain't in their backyard, it ain't real.)

I could see Wash coming from one of these industrial moons -- high-tech wastelands with the glittering jewels of their patron planets barely visible through the haze...

A'course this whole discussion could be based on a false supposition -- We know that Wash's homeworld had a smoggy atmosphere, but in the 'Verse that might not mean industrial waste; it could just be the result of a sloppy or unstable job of terraforming.

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:54 AM

I think (and, of course, my opinion doesn't and shouldn't amount to a hill of reaver corpses when speaking of someone else's intellectal property) that Wash may have been brought up on a planet, but not necessarily born there, or there for the majority of his life. If you look closely at her ID screen in Serenity...it notes that Zoe was born vesselside. Now, certainly her family put down roots somewhere, but, since it takes decades to terraform a planet, and we don't know how far people had to travel, I'm sure there were several people born on spaceships. Wash could have been one of them. After all, he does get Land Crazy if planetside for too long...

Just a theory...

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