Lucas Vs. Whedon
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I think modernization is the key to all this. I was born 1985, but I can still appreciate the impact Star Wars had on movies to date. I also think GL should've left it as a trilogy...In my opinion, he got greedy and wanted to try make an extra buck or two. Hell, I still watch the old star wars movies, I was raised on 'em. But I appreciate intricacy in a movie, and that's one thing GL flaunted. In comparison, yes Star Wars had its moments and turned the tables of the movie industry, which in the end gave us something as beautiful as Serenity. Everyone makes such great points...But we're in the 'now', not the past. Star Wars opened the door, and when we walked through it we saw Serenity/Firefly. You can't discredit GL for his imagination, but I personally think JW is a genius. His imagination out-strips GL's as far as I'm concerned, as does his ability to truly define a character. He creates real humor (the only time I laughed in the prequel's was from R2D2) and brings real depth into the storyline. Let's face it...GL's biggest twists: "Luke, I'm your father." & "Leia, you're my sister."...Maybe this had the dramatic effect 30years back, but these days we want more, we expect more, and we've found more in Serenity/Firefly. My vote goes to Serenity/Firefly. I'll support JW thru-n-thru.
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Originally posted by Moss:
CARTOON, You must live in an interesting neighbourhood dude.
I meant that the people in "Serenity" are more realistic, and just "like" the people next door. I didn't mean that Jayne, Book & Mal lived next to me.
Although, Jayne's shooting off Vera in the middle of the night has grown a might annoyin'.
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Originally posted by Tankin:
I also think GL should've left it as a trilogy...
Well, he had always intended it to be a 9-film story -- at least as far back as 1980, where I remember hearing discussions of it. Three prequels and three sequels. And as far as I can remember, only two characters were slated to be in all 9 films -- R2 & C3PO.
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The first Star Wars trillogy was the best of its time. I do not believe that GL had any clue that it would rock the world like it did and had never planned more than the first picture. When the Death Star blew up the universe was saved. The story was quite simple, but the affects were super. Frankly, without the acting of Ford I don't think the movie would have ever been looked at as more than a FX flick. The thing is, until this time FX was never as professionally done. Did Lucas invent the FX or just stumble on an FX team ready to knock Hollywood on its ear. If you put the typical FX of the day in the original Star Wars it would never have been a rave, the story was ok but characters weak.
GL never produced great dialog and characters were always shallow. All of this is my own opinion, and I know that by saying that Star Wars was only intended to be a single picture is heretical.
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Originally posted by Mekan:
The first Star Wars trillogy was the best of its time. I do not believe that GL had any clue that it would rock the world like it did and had never planned more than the first picture. When the Death Star blew up the universe was saved. The story was quite simple, but the affects were super. Frankly, without the acting of Ford I don't think the movie would have ever been looked at as more than a FX flick. The thing is, until this time FX was never as professionally done. Did Lucas invent the FX or just stumble on an FX team ready to knock Hollywood on its ear. If you put the typical FX of the day in the original Star Wars it would never have been a rave, the story was ok but characters weak.
GL never produced great dialog and characters were always shallow. All of this is my own opinion, and I know that by saying that Star Wars was only intended to be a single picture is heretical.
If he had intended it as only one movie, I doubt he would have bothered securing the sequel rights (which was rather unheard of at the time) prior to release.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Do you remember the early showings played Episode 1 on the rolling text intro? Or was that just bad drugs I had that day?
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Originally posted by Mekan:
Do you remember the early showings played Episode 1 on the rolling text intro? Or was that just bad drugs I had that day?
I honestly can't remember there being "any" episode listing in the original "Star Wars" (which I saw 7 times theatrically in 1977).
However, I do certainly recall going to see "Empire" on the day of it's release in May 1980, and wondering what the heck the "episode V" was all about -- thinking I must've missed something, or there'd been a typo.
And, that's when I learned about the proposed 9-film series.
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Originally posted by Storymark:If he had intended it as only one movie, I doubt he would have bothered securing the sequel rights (which was rather unheard of at the time) prior to release.
As the story goes, Lucas had a rough outline of all three original movies as one long story. When he got to the stage that he could actually start making the thing, he realized it was far too much to do in a single feature. He opted to break it up into three separate filsm and tell the first of the three, with options to do the two sequels if the first was successful.
If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak.
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Originally posted by Mekan:
Do you remember the early showings played Episode 1 on the rolling text intro? Or was that just bad drugs I had that day?
I honestly can't remember there being "any" episode listing in the original "Star Wars" (which I saw 7 times theatrically in 1977).
However, I do certainly recall going to see "Empire" on the day of it's release in May 1980, and wondering what the heck the "episode V" was all about -- thinking I must've missed something, or there'd been a typo.
And, that's when I learned about the proposed 9-film series.
The Episode IV tag was added to the original in '79. The movie was still in theatres, but replacement prints were shipped out (as after a year, they were a bit battered), and Empire was in pre-production at the time.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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