Reavers....How do they....

POSTED BY: IndyBlues
UPDATED: Thursday, March 23, 2006 17:22
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ARCADIA

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:36 PM

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Originally posted by IndyBlues:
I don't want to turn this into a ERA debate.

Neither to I. :-)

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I'm talking about Reavers. More than once in the series it is stated that they are "men".
They rape, kill, and sew pieces of your skin into their clothing(hopefully in that order),
so violating(I hate the word rape) various women for procreation, seems against their ways.

Yes, but they could be refeering to reavers as men in the, 'men = universal = men and women" sort of way (which I guess you get, judging from the quotes). If they reproduce sexually, it really wouldn't be "rape" so much as reaver-sex, whcih is also pretty disturbing, but, hey, that's how its done. I didn't mean to imply that they would rape non-reaver women in order to preproduce.

Now that I think about it, though, reavers are really just people altered by Pax, so I don't know if they would just produce normal babies that they would then socialize into reavers, or if they would produce reaver babies. Or, if the Pax does mutate them genetically, then it's also possible that they can't reproduce biologically.

So, I guess the bushwacked method is looking more and more likely. The problem is, do reavers do this intetionally? Do they have a method of retrieving new reavers? etc.

What a complicated issue.

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INDYBLUES

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:46 PM

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"What a complicated issue"

Glad I could help

Seriously, I love digging to the root of all these ideas. I love this show, and I also love how thought provoking it is,....probably why it was cancelled. You know how corporate HATES independant thought,.....Independant....Hmmm
I think I'm onto sonething here,...or ON something, lol.
'Blues

REAVERMAN

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:01 PM

I dont think the reavers reproduce at all except for the occaisional convert like in Bushwhacked. Even if they had females, the constant radiation exposure from their uncontained reactors would sterilize them.

THUNDER

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:37 PM

It was explaned in the series

NATEM

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:46 PM

I always sort of pictured their society like the orcs/goblins in Lord of the Rings. They were constantly fighting with each other and were pretty savage as well. Also orcs were originally elves I think so the mutation fits. I don't know if it was ever explained how orcs reproduced though.

INDYBLUES

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by Thunder:
It was explaned in the series

It was?!? Cool, please point the way, so I can see this explaination.
'Blues

SHINYFAB

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 4:58 AM

Based on what occurred on Miranda, I don't think Pax discriminates between male & female. There have to be Reaver women. I don't think there can be a real distinction between male and female because of the way they desecrate themselves. In the same vein, I have to think there were also young children who would have been affected. 30,000 people is quite a bit and also based on the movie, it doesn't appear they attack those they consider one of them. Because of the radiation, most Reavers are probably sterile and I think they will eventually die out as the younger generation gets to old age. The Reavers, however, seem to be unopposed for the most part when they attack since they take people by surprise and may well live to be quite old before they start to decline. As far as the Reaver violation of a non-Reaver, without getting too graphic, there are a lot of ways to do it. And aside from the survivor found in Bushwacked, how many people have been able to explain what really happened when Reavers attack? The survivor in Bushwacked wasn't sane enough to give details beyond nightmarish ramblings. I wanted to get specific from the movie, but I noticed heavy spoilers were being avoided so I'll stop here.

Bwah!

THUNDER

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:09 PM

It was in the second episode were they find the ship drifting. Mal said that they make a few poeple watch what the do & it makes them crazy

BROWNCOAT1

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:04 PM

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Originally posted by Shinyfab:
Based on what occurred on Miranda, I don't think Pax discriminates between male & female. There have to be Reaver women. I don't think there can be a real distinction between male and female because of the way they desecrate themselves. In the same vein, I have to think there were also young children who would have been affected.

Perhaps it has something to do w/ testostorone & the inherent aggressiveness of the human male. Could be that women & children were not affected.

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TANKIN

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:19 PM

Well when humanity refers to anything human, we sexistly use the male gender. "Man-Kind", etc. Not too mention that people may just assume they're 'men' given that no one really survives an encounter with them. If anyone has seen the Serenity movie, the first reaver you see in that movie is female, so there are definitely female reavers. Chances are the reavers have created their own little sadistic society, a society that I wouldn't really want to imagine the basis on...I also believe that if you get the timeline right, the incident on Miranda happened just before the war, not during it. Perhaps at the inception of the Alliance's dominative ideals? I wouldn't really want to imagine those sadistic things breeding...But the way they were created (sorry for spoiling this for any that haven't seen the movie yet) signifies that the reavers acted the exact opposite to what the drug-thingy was intended to do. Instead of being compliant, they rape, pillage, and murder everything they say. So chances are they each other a lot...That's a dirty, scarey thought. >< Sorry I've regurgitated a few other peoples posts, I'm writing this *as* I read the post hehe. :) So it's possible they both breed and turn people into reavers. Oh and do fix that maths equation, there'd be 300,000reavers minimum. She said 1/10 of the population, 10% of 30million would be 300,000. That's one deadly society...Especially if they figure out how to multiply...Now with such a powerful threat, one wonders why the hell the Alliance haven't dealt with them?

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