HELP!- Where do i shoot mal?
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UPDATED: Sunday, March 26, 2006 08:17
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Ok so this request is for help with a fic that hasn't strictly been posted yet, but it will be. I promise 
Ok so for the question where do i shoot mal? 
I had an idea, it turned into a fic, and now its turned into an argument.
I wish to have a character that isn't particularly familar with guns shoot mal. I thought for a wound that will not be fatel the shoulder might be a good idea. i wanted to stay away from stomach because it seems like everyone shoots mal in the stomach, and i dont want readers being all like, oh this is out of gas!
I told my partner this, and he disagrees completely. thinks the shoulder is too hard to hit for a novice, and ultimately more dangerouse, as well as what every one. does. he thinks the stomach is best, as ruled out legs and arms as too hard, and not dangerouse enough. the people that witness the shooting have to think mals dead.
At a later date mals injury has to be agrivated by him carrying someone to safty.
Ok so if anyones still with me i guess what i want to know is, is every one fed up of mal getting shot in the stomach? Is the shoulder to hard or overdone?
All ideas and comments welcome.
Ultimately- where do i shot mal?
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well, not that I know anything at all about guns beyond videogames... but insofar as any part of the body being harder to hit than another:
Yes, it's easier to shoot someone in the stomach I'd imagine than aiming for a specific part. But if we're talking about a novice sort of wildly firing away, then that bullet can end up just about anywhere.
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I've found that when people panic and shoot, they tend to jerk the gun. So I'd say the shoulders/arms are fair game (and helps with your future plan of Mal's carrying an all). More often though they tend to point downward and shoot, I think, so the upper leg/thighs are also acceptable.
It depends on what they were doing before the gun goes off. If they just kinda pick it up and shoot, go for an extremity. If they're pointing the gun at Mal and babbling, and they fire just in the heat of things, do the stomach.
And who cares if he's got shot there before? Only so many places you can shoot someone, and only so many that aren't 'strategically' targetted.
My two cents.
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hey guys, I thought it might help to have a little more information.
When he is shot, mal is being held in position. the person shooting him is being forced to do so. they do not want to but it is either them or mal, and he tells them to do it. so its a facing each other calm talking kinda shooting. it has to at less look lke a fatel wound, because if it doesnt the people doing the forcing just wont except it. oh and it happends to be his gun his shot with. (just to add insult to injury, litrially.)
well thats about all i can think of that may affect the outcome.
Thank so much for your replies, im still not convinced either way, so more are welcome. 
but i am a little clearer. so thank you loads, and you all may have a protein cookie, hot out the oven and all warm too.
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hmm... that is a quandary, huh? If it's gotta come out believable as fatal then you'd obviously have to rule out the extremities. Gut shots, can be quite fatal (example that scene in Three Kings has a rather graphic explanation as to the why) but not always immediately so.
Shoulders are good, too. (Is the person being forced to shoot Mal trying specifically to get this result, or actually trying to kill him?)
Also, a good grazing scalp wound is always good for tons of blood. Lots of blood vessels up there tend to make it look worse than it actually is. (Though obviously getting headshot is a lot more likely to outright kill you, too.)
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Originally posted by nuclearday:
hmm... that is a quandary, huh?
A quandary, yeah thats the polite way of labling it. Lol.
Hmm as for what the person shooting wants, they going to want to cause him the least pain/damage possiable. they do not want him dead, they are his friend.who's only reason for even holding his gun is because they have one pointed at there own sweet head.
I thought about the head, but it just seems a might to dangerouse, plus it doesnt really affect his ablity to carry someone.
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Arghhh i've gone all blue! whoops wrong button.
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Ahh, I see your problem ;p On the other hand, if the person shooting Mal a) doesn't want to be shooting him b)isn't too familiar with guns and c)is doing all this at gunpoint their ownself...
Might not make for the most accurate shot anyways. (Seen that in movies at least: shaky hands, closing their eyes before they pull the trigger, etc.) You're likely looking at somewhere in the torso then, at least. Wish I could be more help, though ;p
Along the lines of the shoulder, there's also the collarbone. Gonna hurt like a bitch I'd imagine, but it's also a nice solid round bone that could deflect some of the energy away from anything vital. Same for the ribs, which is partially what they're there for. Gonna likely hit something he's gonna need at some point, but might not necessarily kill him straight out.
Seeing as how I'm hooked now, I'll be awaiting your fic to see how this ends up playing out ;p
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ah now thats an idea i like. the collarbone taking the brunt of the shot. close enough to chest to look deadly, and with lots of the pain. Resulting in a immediate pass-out, but then the ablity to still get up and stumbleto where ever need be.
hmm but then again wouldnt a bulliet just smash it to pieces, i dont want permanant damage.
oh *sigh* i think im just causing myself problems now.
I think im going to have to have the person aim in one place but the bulliet end up somewhere else thats for sure.
woohoo i have someone interested already, and i haven't even posted yet. well thats good news. I'm going to try and get the first chapter up in the next week or two. however this shootingness doesnt happen untill a loooooong way in. I'm just trying to get it straight in my head now, so i know where the whole thing is going. (if that makes any sense)
thanks for your help, and being a sounding board nuclearday
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Is the shooter trying to kill Mal, or trying to make it LOOK like s/he is killing Mal?
If you don't want to go with the stomach, the thigh is actually a good option. There are lots of big, giant arteries in the thigh that bleed heavily when they're sliced or shot. The femoral artery is the biggest, but you would want to his the lesser arteries around the femoral artery. You really don't want to slice the femoral itself, you could bleed to death very, very quickly (we're talking minutes). So, if the people are sadistic, or former soldiers (slicing of the femoral artery is a fairly common way that soldiers die) then they will know that Mal is a goner when the buller hits his leg, and might be satisfied. Personally, this would be my pick, because once it is patched up you don't have to deal with overly lengthy recovery.
The shoulder... it works, but in order for it to be believably fatel, Mal needs to be shot in the right shoulder, which could be too tricky for an inexperienced shooter. Also, if the bullet doesn't go straight through, then having it so close to the heart is very, very dangerous, as it could end up moving down and opening the aorta. And if that happened -- bye, bye Mal. Of course, if the wound was too high on the right shoulder, to the point where it wouldn't be all too dangerous, it wouldn't look too fatal.
I don't think you need to worry about the "aggrivating the wound while be carried" thing. The wound.... well, I think it would be pretty aggrivating no matter where it is.
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You may be interested in the book "Body Truama: A Writer's Guide to Wounds and Injuries" by David W. Page ( http://snipurl.com/nww1). Seriously, this is one of the most interesting books I've ever read.
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