the real shepard book
POSTED BY: tudyksgagreel
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 16:11
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As I recall, the whole conversation about Book not having sex and "channeling his energy elsewhere" takes place in the context of his being a shepherd.
We do know that Book has never married. We don't know anything about Book's sex life before he became a shepherd. And we don't know when he became a shepherd.
Book is definitely one of the coolest characters of all time.
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In a attempt to find out WHO IS THIS GUY (who claims himself to be) NAMED BOOK, we need to gather some facts about him:
(I haven't watched all episodes and I don't have a HD inside my head, so correct me if I'm wrong)
1) He never claimed he has been a preacher all his life.
2) His actions show that he has been envolved with crime/war/etc in the past. He never denied that. ("How can a preacher know so much about crime?" "Maybe someday I'll tell you" - Jayne and Book)
3) He had some involvement with alliance. (he was attended by a alliance hospital - no questions asked)
4) He was never maried.
5) He boarded Serenity before Simon & River.
6) River readed his thoughts: "I don't give half-a-hump whether you're
innocent or not. So where does that put you?" He might not be speaking about her. But he had some evil look on his eyes... (personally, I think he is remembering something someone told him)
7) He is not a weak man.
8) He (seem to) dislike the idea of getting involved into crime.
9) He was truly upset when he found out Inara was a companion.
10) He spoke to Mal about a special hell. Bible says nothing about it, but maybe he was just mocking Mal.
11) He's one of the coolest characteres of all times, and maybe even one of the coolest in Firefly.
Personally, I believe that:
1) If he wanted to do anything bad against someone in Serenity, he would have done already.
2) He's too realistic as a preacher to be in witness program.
3) I have no doubt his motivations are honest. (unless he's fooling me too! :-)
So my two cents would be:
He was involved in the war (maybe in Serenity battle). Maybe he was in the Independents side and betrayed his friends. Maybe he was in the Alliance side and witnessed/took part in a mass assassination. At some point he might have claimed to be innocent and someone told him: "I don't give half-a-hump whether you're innocent or not. So where does that put you?" Well, with this one sentence everything became clear to him.
So he found God and abandoned his life of evil. He joined a monastery and rebuilt a life. Probably changed his name. I think that's pretty much it.
Maybe someone can point out any other facts (or almost-facts)...
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9) He was truly upset when he found out Inara was a companion.
Was he really upset by the fact that Inara is a companion or was he upset that Mal lead him to believe she was a state official, then laughed at his discomfort? I don't think he had a problem with Inara's job, I don’t think he supports it, but he still refers to her kindly and calls her a "respectable Companion".
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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle
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Andre:
6) River readed his thoughts: "I don't give half-a-hump whether you're
innocent or not. So where does that put you?" He might not be speaking about her. But he had some evil look on his eyes... (personally, I think he is remembering something someone told him)
10) He spoke to Mal about a special hell. Bible says nothing about it, but maybe he was just mocking Mal.
11) He's one of the coolest characteres of all times, and maybe even one of the coolest in Firefly.
6)I think that the memory River reads from Book in OIS could be a lot of things. It could be what you said. But because he has the angry look on his face, I think it's something he said to someone else, perhaps as part of an interrogation.
10)The special hell comment was terrific. It reminded me so much of his character Harris on Barney Miller. I don't think he was mocking here, just doing what he could to emphasize the point to Mal. Interesting point with this episode is that he didn't spot Saffron as a grifter.
11) What can I say they're all cool in their own way, but you're right he is the coolest.
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One thing that impressed me was the prompt medical care and the lack of questions afterward. Like that which would be accorded to Commander James Bond, or to Billy Graham.
He could have been the spritual advisor to someone high up in the Allience, and gone into seclusion because the reality did not match the retoric. As for his proficency with wheapons, and martial arts, a man goes through more than one phase in his life. I am betting soldier, scholar, scientist, priest.
The idea that someone said "I don't give half a hump" to Book is fasinating. If Book said it to someone, he is duplictious since I can not think of a senario where the character he presents would not treat the innocent different than the guilty. It had not occured to me that it might be the memory of something said to him.
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9) He was truly upset when he found out Inara was a companion.
Umm.. That is not what I saw, or how I saw it, one of the two.
Mal was being obviously mean to Inara, and Book both, by noting her profession in the manner he did. Plus you have the embarrassment of thinking Inara was some kind of politician and finding out you were decieved, that she was a prostitute instead. (Hmmm...mistaking a whore for a politician. There has got to be a good line there somewhere.)
Also, he did bring her food, and joke with her about sermons later on.
"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"
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If Book said it to someone, he is duplictious since I can not think of a senario where the character he presents would not treat the innocent different than the guilty.
Was duplictious, I think (hope) you meant.
That line has always bugged me, and it is clear that Joss meant for it too. Was he reviewing a pass sin of his own, something visited on himself, what?
Damn Faux. I guess it would be too much to ask for Joss to let us in on Book's secret in the movie.
"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"
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Damn Faux. I guess it would be too much to ask for Joss to let us in on Book's secret in the movie.
No, no it wouldn't. Joss, if you read this, please let us in on Book's past. There see that wasn't too hard.
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Drakon Wrote:
Damn Faux. I guess it would be too much to ask for Joss to let us in on Book's secret in the movie.
No, no it wouldn't. Joss, if you read this, please let us in on Book's past. There see that wasn't too hard.
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