Re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic

OLDENGLANDDRY

Friday, March 17, 2006 3:24 PM

PIRATENEWS said:
USA no longer exists thanks to NAFTA SHAFTA, which merged USA with Mexico and Canada, which is part of 55-nation British Commonwealth, run by the German dictator Queen of England, for the "British" Empire




Ahh, if only that were true. But it cant be or British actors would be getting better parts in American films.

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SWORDOFWHEDON

Friday, March 17, 2006 4:15 PM

A lot easier. Start taxing corporations what they owe, and giving them corporate welfare, and forbid them from laying anyone off as long as they're in profit (as determined by an independant agency with no corporate ties, and not their book cookers). So what if they only make 400 million in profit this year, boo-hoo

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HERO

Friday, March 17, 2006 4:29 PM

Quote:

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

Hero, what do you prosecute?

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FLETCH2

Friday, March 17, 2006 6:39 PM

What is interesting about PN's ramblings is the evolution of the conspiracy theory. If you go back and look at theories at they existed in say 1986, 1996 and where they are now you will see how they change over time. They are a little like antibiotic resistant bacteria, they exchange traits, actors and other factors as stories mix and are retold. Parts of tales get reassembled so that they fit with whatever boogie man the theorist favours.

If you are a Ufo conspiracy theorist then Majestic 12 run the world, MKUltra is their method of controling the world and HARP is a giant mind control thumper built at the north pole to turn mankind into zombies. PN will probably call those people, tinfoil hats, nutjobs, disinformationalists or dupes. They will consider him to be a govnt plant set up to detract attention from the govs alien masters. Why? Well unless the jews are aliens the bad guys are incompatable, even if they agree on every other part of the conspiracy.

Looking at PN's posts we find......

"Jews secretly run the world" - Original origin Nazi Psyops in occupied Europe before and during WW2. They needed to get the populus behind the program, so a lot of film, book and other imagry was created and distributed a lot of which didnt go awa when the Nazi's did.

"British Empire" runs everything has various but mainly Lyndon LaRoche in it's current form. Though the older idea that they took over control from the Knights Templar was always my favourite because it lets you extend dominance back before the 1500's. A good conspiracy world government has to have been at it forever, even if that means dealing with the inconvience of explaining how they exist before they exist.

MKUltra was always a fav of mine. Any secret mind control project where the first two letters of its "Super secret codename" actually explains what it is (Mind Kontrole) points to it being either a fake or the work of Dr Evil. This made some folks uncomfortable in the late 1980's and because conspiracy nuts are nuts a serious move was made to have MKUltra redefined as a "disinformation" project to hide the REAL deal. I believe Monarch was selected because it appeared in a declassified list of project names from 1954. In any case Monarch and MKUltra/Delta played tag for a while and I now notice are considered subprojects of one another.

PN seems to be a harmless nut (as long as he isn't driving) and seems to be very immaginative and entertaining. For some reason he always makes me think of Exador, the manic preacher from Mork and Mindy who believed he had 1000's of invisable followers. I also note that he's picked the only avatar that actually looks like a crazy person. Nice touch!!

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DREAMTROVE

Friday, March 17, 2006 10:20 PM

Fletch,

Do you work for the govt?

This govt. the govt of the US or it's network of associations, CIA, etc. or a defacto govt-corporate brach like halliburton, or the govt. of texas.

The alien freaks are actually funded to discredit conspiracy theories. They probably exist all on their own. I think PN has to some degree been infected by Alex Jones and co. But this doesn't change the reality.



And everyone,


Here's another thought.

There are two types of people in the world: Conspiract theorists and people who think that two airplanes flew into the World Trade Center by accident.


I'm really quite serious. Everyone here is a conspiracy theorist. Whether you believe "Osama Bin Laden conspired with Al Qaeda to attack the US on 9.11.01," or "Bush knocked down the towers." Either one is a conspiracy theory. The only non-conspiracy solution is "planes flew into the buildings by accident, it was a coincedence it happened twice on the same morning."

If anyone here thinks that it was an accident, please, speak now. Otherwise, stop knocking the idea of a conspiracy threory being possible - you already are a believer in at least one.

The truth is most of todays accepted historical fact is riddled with what was once a conspiracy theory. I remember in a session of a senate panel interviewing Gonzalez, the Att. Gen said:

"Oh, come on, no one but a few alarmist extremists thought that bin Laden was going to attack the US"

To which one Senator said:

"Alarmist extremists turned out to be right."

During WWII, the idea that there was an extermination program going on in Germany was a conspiracy theory which was often laughed out of the room. In reality, there were several. Even for those out there who doubt the death tolls, the reality of the programs agains jews, gypsies and serbs is now established fact, to say nothing of massive slaughter of czechs poles and russians.

Another conspiracy theory is the Churchill ordered the Lusitania directly and intentionally into the course of a UBoat to create an incident. Now it's a well documented fact. Some day history books will not question that LBJ had JFK murdered.

So, todays conspiracy theories are tomorrows established facts. If we want information that we can acutally use, rather than a long dead intellectual curiosity, we must accept conspiracy theories.

That said, sure, 90% of them are wrong. But then so are 90% of scientific theories.

For the record, The Leary experiments are certainly not a work of fiction, they're definitely real, but to what extent they were part of a larger network and to what extent any such program is in effect is a matter of how you look at it. Many drugs developed to alter the perceptions of soldiers so that they would accept the orders given to them and be able to fight world war three seem to have migrated on to the street and been spread not deliberately, but by black market forces, and as a result, to some extent, we have a sheepish population. Master scheme? I tend to think random accident, but still a very real and serious issue.

The idea that university scientists with govt. contracts who developed hallucinigens, (hardcore fact so far) which were then used by the military in experiments on soldiers (Not only do I know some personally, as does PN, or he is one, but the military was censured for this by our own federal courts, so we have to count this as real) and then those drugs hit the streets (at the very least this was random profiteering) and now have alter the american response to situations (not in any desireable way. I know a few hard core drug addicts, they don't tend to be yesmen to the govt,. but are useless to society in other ways, and unable to resist govt control because they are stoned to the gills.) All of this is clearly how events unfolded if everything is cast in the most absolutely positive light. I'm not sure that PN made any inference that this was anything but the case, and this is all established fact. If in fact there was a deliberate effort to alter the minds of the american

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