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POSTED BY: Succatash
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 07:06
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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 5:40 PM

As long as we're considering supernatural influence on the Sept. 11th attacks, it seems there's far more evidence to indicate Allah was the actual culprit. Just a thought.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 5:45 PM

Really? I thought it was a bunch of psychotic religious fundamentalists eager to meet the guy. Who knew?

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 5:51 PM

Or maybe it was Loki. Psychotic religious extremists though? I dunno, that's just too obvious. There's got to be some higher explanation.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 5:55 PM

Leprechauns. Sneaky, blood thirsty, bastards.

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 5:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
As long as we're considering supernatural influence on the Sept. 11th attacks, it seems there's far more evidence to indicate Allah was the actual culprit. Just a thought.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith



very well said,

though there are many, many godless and inhuman acts carried out in the name of "god"s" that have no basis in their teachings only the overzealous passions of extremists.

but sadly there are such violent hate-filled teachings as well.

I know it's a drift from this thread in a thread, but it actually brings us back to the SCi-Fi of Firefly.I wonder if we will learn more of the "Philosophy" of Reavers.

MAL
Reavers might take issue with that philosophy. If they had a philosophy.

Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 7:16 PM

Hey, check this out - I received an email from Mr. Zaza himself.


"Succatash,

First off, I want to thank you for complimenting my writing so generously. It took a lot of class to do that and I'm not sure I would have been as cool about it - especially if someone had used their writing skills to revile something I care about as much as you care about Firefly. Rereading my article, I do think it was somewhat over the top. I especially regret getting personal in my attacks on Joss Whedon, who I'm sure is a very nice guy. That was uncalled for and out of line.

Thank you as well for inviting me to post comments on your website. Rather than address each post individually however, I think I'll collect the major points made by your readers (and in emails to my editor), and answer them in an article on ratsalad.com - which you can link to, or post or your site. My reasons for wanting to handle it this way are as follows:

I don't think I'm going to sway any Firefly fans to my views - I think we can all agree on that, so a debate would probably just be a recapping of what's already been said.

Also, while I'm sure that you - and the majority of your readers - would be willing to engage in a friendly, open debate, I don't see much value in conducting an on-line pissing match with the people who resorted to ad hominem attacks or personal insults.

Having said all that, it would be remarkably lame of me to write something so inflammatory without answering in some way the concerns of the people I offended - and I think the best way would be a follow-up article with point-by-point answers on ratsalad.com. I can foresee one objection by Firefly fans to this idea - it tends to give me the last word. But look at it this way: in the grand scheme of things, Joss Whedon has the last word - he's the one making millions of dollars doing a job he loves with the added benefit of an international forum for his ideas. Anyway, with the follow-up article I intend to be as clear as possible about my views without resorting to insulting language and hyperbole. I can't promise the new article will be entirely conciliatory - sarcasm and invective are my stock in trade and my writing suffers when I try to be nice. (It should also be noted that Ratsalad is primarily meant to purvey humor.) I'll have to strike a balance there.

-Willie Zaza

P.S. I, or my editor, will give you a heads up when the article is posted. And by the way, yes, that's my real name. I mention it only because a number of people posting expressed disbelief at this. It's Albanian, or to be more precise, Albanese, that is it's a name common amongst the Albanian diaspora population in southern Italy."

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 7:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaythryn:
Leprechauns. Sneaky, blood thirsty, bastards.



Bringing it all back home: Carl, from The Simpsons, teaches us that while leprechauns can cure curses, Jesus is better. He's like six leprechauns, but much harder to catch.

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 7:26 PM

That I will be most curious to see.

Mal: “See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown!”

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 7:27 PM

I just noticed this from Zaza's letter:

"Thank you as well for inviting me to post comments on your website."

Hehe, does he think I'm Haken?

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Thursday, October 2, 2003 9:47 AM

I would disagree with Sarge's comment, as to Allah's involvment in 9-11. Or any major deity. I would think that a major deity would simply smite the Americans instead of asking folks to go to America (on a hospitable visa program) learn to fly planes (that they can't learn in their home countries) hijack planes (they can't build themselves) into buildings (they also can't build)

If Allah was behind it, he sure seems pretty cheesed at his own followers. All that did was open up a can of woop ass on his own folks. Since then "Allah" has lost Afghanistan and Iraq, and looks on the verge of losing Iran, Syria and perhaps even Saudi Arabia. Would any major deity with the slightest common sense or fore knowledge wreck his own religion in such a fashion?

And I have been told that Shiatan sometimes changes his appearance.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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