Proving God
POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Friday, March 10, 2006 01:58
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I don’t see any reason to leave the atheists and nonbelievers alone. First of all, I’m pretty sure they won’t leave the theists and the believers alone, and secondly, I don’t think they are all that defenseless or necessarily wrong. So have at it, I say. Just walk away friends.
I’d just be happy if people stopped using the word “proof” all together and stopped accusing me of using the word ‘proof’ when I clearly did not. It’s got to be the most hyped and overrated word in history. Outside of the idealistic world of mathematics “proof” is a nonsense word.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I’d just be happy if people stopped using the word “proof” all together and stopped accusing me of using the word ‘proof’ when I clearly did not.
Do you have any proof to back that up, Finn?
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Originally posted by Khyron:
Although it has to be said that these religious discussions were the only ones that didn't develop into dreamtrove having a Republicans vs Democrats bullfight with someone. Not yet, at least.
LOL
Give him time.
His hands are full at the moment -- oh, with the Klingons and everything else going on in that other thread

Who was the idiot who brought Klingons into the discussion, anyhow?
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"Who was the idiot who brought Klingons into the discussion, anyhow?"
Yeah... everyone knows it's the Romulans that give the real trouble.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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That's actually sort of refreshing to hear from a believer (a pretty big one it sounds like).
I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch me soar.
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You can't "prove" an article of faith because articles of faith are- by definition- beyond being proved. They exist despite lack of evidence, or even despite evidence to the contrary. But, hmmm... come to think of it, you can't "prove" a scientific hypothesis either; I think the usual approach is that you can only disprove a hypothesis. I think "proof" only exists in math and other strict logical constructs. Trying to "prove" an article of faith actually destroys the act of faith- right?
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
...and stopped accusing me of using the word ‘proof’ when I clearly did not.
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
proof
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Originally posted by SignyM:
You can't "prove" an article of faith because articles of faith are- by definition- beyond being proved. They exist despite lack of evidence, or even despite evidence to the contrary. But, hmmm... come to think of it, you can't "prove" a scientific hypothesis either; I think the usual approach is that you can only disprove a hypothesis. I think "proof" only exists in math and other strict logical constructs. Trying to "prove" an article of faith actually destroys the act of faith- right?
SignyM, I have only one suggestion for you...
Uh, lose that "y" and buy a proper vowel, will you? Your name is confusing me.
What the heck is it supposed to mean, anyhow??!?!? 
I mean "cartoon" is "cartoon". Everyone knows what a "cartoon" is. No big mystery.
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Quote:Ah, that would be telling wouldn't it? But here's a hint: It's the name of a character from a sience fiction book.
SignyM, I have only one suggestion for you... Uh, lose that "y" and buy a proper vowel, will you? Your name is confusing me. What the heck is it supposed to mean, anyhow??!?!?

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