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UPDATED: Thursday, March 9, 2006 04:53
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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 10:28 PM

How about South Dakota takes possession of all uteri.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:19 PM

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How about South Dakota takes possession of all uteri.


From the RTL PoV I considered "SD bans genocide of next generation" but I really wanted to avoid the subject.

I guess no one caught the obvious angle, which was, all of these stories were headlines I picked up that had thick standard media-slant spin on them, and completely reversed the spin. You're headline is more or less the way the media portrays that story so my rtl one would be the reverse. But I really really would like to avoid this topic. It's a big distraction.

Anyway, I'm not sure I agree with all of the things I posted, I was just being reactionary and completely reversing the media spin on each headline.

I strongly suspect the SA guy is guilty, because this story has been kicking around for a while.

I'm more or less indifferent to the looney who thinks he's Al Qaeda, but he should be institutionalize, not hung. In case anyone missed this detail, he does not actually have any ties to Al Qaeda, *it's all in his head.* He's a fruitcake. But not one who actually blew anything up.

I haven't seen either flim.

I don't know why Thomas give up, I was just throwing in a timing related suggestion.

I'm not particularly opposed to recruiters on campus.

The debt is a problem, it crossed the $8.2B limit at some point over the weekend, but the media for some reason is talking about it as a possible future event because they're using data from last year, and yet no one has okayed the debt ceiling to be raised.

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Well, unless I'm mistaken (and that happens occasionally) -- India has been a nuclear power since the 1970's.


Sort of, but not like this.

Cartoon, I kind of agree with you on this one.

I actually support India on the Kashmir dispute, and in general, I think India is much more the sort of state that the US should have as allies, ie. capitalist democracy with real power, democracy and generally civilized, as opposed to military dictatorship pakistan in agressive looney land. But I think that it violates the treaty and so we can't do it without having Mr. January sell nukes to Bin Laden.

But knowing that India and Pakistan are caught in an arms race and openly arming one side is an invitation to a nuclear black market. If we lose Pakistan as an ally to someone who *will* arm her, that being China, then china gains a corridor to Iran. The China-Pakistan-Iran scenario is a potentially devestating one for our little mideast excursion. While I oppose our mideast excursion, I don't want China to have it, and I would support defending it against a communist takeover.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:26 PM

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Oh dear. Been hanging around the pirates lately, haven't you?



Those damned pirates!

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:27 PM

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Actually, Hamas offered to open peace talks and Israel refused. They're current position is that all jewish settlements have to be removed from the West Bank and Gaza, which oddly is identical to Sharon's own stance. It's a lot better than they're previous position, which is the position the UAE still holds: "Israel must be destroyed."



Attribution? Based on the stuff I've seen, it's basically both sides refusing to budge.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:43 PM

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Anyway, I'm not sure I agree with all of the things I posted, I was just being reactionary and completely reversing the media spin on each headline.


I thought it was a bit strange -- I mean, even for you.

Seriously, you got me. I thought you were serious. Oh well. Not as young (and alert) as I used to be. Back in the day...

Oh, never mind. I already forgot what I was going to say.

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Cartoon, I klind of agree with you on this one.


You have any idea how long I waited for the other foot to fall on that one? There's always a "but" -- but this time, there was no "but". I must be losing it.

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Oh. There's the "but". Knew there had to be one somewhere.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
But knowing that India and Pakistan are caught in an arms race and openly arming one side is an invitation to a nuclear black market. If we lose Pakistan as an ally to someone who *will* arm her, that being China, then china gains a corridor to Iran. The China-Pakistan-Iran scenario is a potentially devestating one for our little mideast excursion. While I oppose our mideast excursion, I don't want China to have it, and I would support defending it against a communist takeover.


Yeah. Sort of like that Star Trek episode where the Klingons and Federation were each backing different sides in a dispute. Very scary. Klingons, I mean.

And, oh, yes. By all means -- avoid the pirates.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 12:02 AM

I think the world would be safest with no nuclear weapons at all, and especially out of the hands of the one country we know for a fact is actually willing to use them...



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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 12:35 AM

Cartoon,

Lol

There's actually a serious side to this. Both Pakistan and Iran are Chinese allies. If Pakistan ceases to be our ally, that gives China a red corridor. It means they directly border us in Iraq, and if anyone recallls Korean and Vietnam, the effect of being in a conflict which was bordered by Chinese forces. Furthermore, it means that almost completely surround us in Afghanistan.

The addition of India to our alliance does little for us, since we cannot use that without a direct military confrontation with China, which we will never risk. So suddenly we have massive China corridor with border support to anyone who they choose to support. And don't think they won't. If China sees an opportunity to take control of the region by supporting one of our opponents, they will do so. And we can't do jack about it.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 2:25 AM

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I think the world would be safest with no nuclear weapons at all, and especially out of the hands of the one country we know for a fact is actually willing to use them...


France?

Well, Chirac did say they'd use them if France were subject to terror attacks...

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 2:35 AM

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France?

Well, Chirac did say they'd use them if France were subject to terror attacks...



France is way up there on the list of countries that should *not* have nuclear weapons, as one of the only powers to have used nuclear weapons post-cold war.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 2:47 PM

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France?

Well, Chirac did say they'd use them if France were subject to terror attacks...


Nope, word's is cheap, I'm talking about actions, people who actually used nuclear weapons against civilian populations...



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