Subtle yet interesting show observations -- post yours

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DUTCHBOY

Tuesday, March 7, 2006 4:25 PM

I've seen this on some other sites, but it hasn't been mentioned in this thread so far, so:

In the BDM, when Simon and River are supposed to get off Serenity (on Bellerophon? I'm not sure), you can see Jayne getting off the boat.. wearing his orange wool cap.

I just thought that was so funny!

MATTCOZ

Tuesday, March 7, 2006 4:36 PM

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I'll get a picture of it when I'm at home tonight. Anything else anyone would want me to get a picture of?

Or maybe I won't, for some reason my computer is having trouble reading the DVD.

J6NGO1977

Thursday, March 9, 2006 9:01 PM

Took me about 3 watches to notice that the dancing girl at the start of 'Train Job' slips a piece of paper into Mals hand. Before I noticed that I thought 'where did they get the job from?'

ASARIAN

Friday, March 10, 2006 8:42 PM

I was just thinking about River's highly quoted "No power in the 'verse can stop me." And I know a lot of folks take this to be cute, witty statement, in which River refers to what they tend to call her unstoppable, "kick-ass" abilities, along the line of Schwarzenegger's "I'll be back" bit or something. But, lest we forget, it was Kaylee who initially said it, when chasing River for an apple (and finally capturing it). And it was River, who, out of her friendship with Kaylee, uses that line on Kaylee after she popped those three bad guys.

From a River perspective (the one I usually take), it's actually really quite a touching moment. River, rather innocently naive about the whole situation, turns to Kaylee, with a sweet smile on her face, and playfully says it, to mean something like: "And see, this is what I can do." But really NOT in a boastful way. That was the beauty of the whole scene; she kinda ranks it with Kaylee taking that apple away from her. To River, it's all pretty much a game (Kaylee even refers to that in OiS).

I'm not even sure why I felt the need to post this here. I guess because I feel this line has been "de-subtelized" somehow; and I believe it deserves a short moment of my time to remember that the original meaning was much more beautiful and tender.

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

MATTCOZ

Friday, March 10, 2006 9:00 PM

That moment was both touching and terrifying. The bond between River and Kaylee is special, was tough to see Kaylee afraid of her, although that made it that much nicer to see them playing again at the end of OiS.

STUBBS

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:25 PM

just a small observation about Serenity, or more specifically the ending credits. I let them run through the other day after watching Serenity, and was amazed to hear that the very last tune played at the end of the credits is a reworked version of the Firefly theme (minus the words). I think its a great touch, and a very symbolic reminder of the reason why the film exists in the first place.

Stubbs

MATTCOZ

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:30 PM

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Originally posted by Stubbs:
the very last tune played at the end of the credits is a reworked version of the Firefly theme

I really like that version, anyone have a tab for it?

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:01 PM

This one follows on from SHAMBLEAU's post earlier. In the pilot, we see Mal losing all his faith as his friends are shot around him and he realises that help isn't coming. In the next scene, as Shambleau pointed out, he's drifting and weightless in space. But there's more than that. He's upside down. I've always seen that as a metaphore for how deeply he's changed. His entire world is now upside down, and he's the polar opposite of what he was before.

Something that's not my observation but that comes from the Shindig commentary. The costume designer mentioned that the leather string Zoe always wears around her neck is a symbol of her marraige bond to Wash. Such a subtle touch, and somehow much deeper than if she'd worn a ring - which in the rougher places she always ends up would be a target for thieves.

One last one, something I know others must have noticed. Inara is angry at Mal when he "hides" in her shuttle to get away from Saffron, but did anyone else notice how she snapped completely when he started talking about children? Even though she mentioned it first, it seems to send her over the edge. I don't know why, but that little exchange alone is enough to convince me that either she had a child she was forced to give up, or she can't have children at all.

MATTCOZ

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
One last one, something I know others must have noticed. Inara is angry at Mal when he "hides" in her shuttle to get away from Saffron, but did anyone else notice how she snapped completely when he started talking about children? Even though she mentioned it first, it seems to send her over the edge. I don't know why, but that little exchange alone is enough to convince me that either she had a child she was forced to give up, or she can't have children at all.

Maybe, but I think she just couldn't stand the thought of him with another woman. Then again there are supposed to be a lot of hints about her past, so who knows.

EVILDINOSAUR

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:27 PM

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In the Serenity movie... the entire opening with Mal walking through the ship from the cockpit to the cargo hold is shot in one take. No cuts. Not quite subtle, but really amazing when you realize it.

Actually, if you watch with commentary, you learn that it's not all in one take. Which I think makes the shot even cooler. Joss hides a cut in a turn as Mal and Simon are going from the upper hall to the infirmary.

The way the set is built, the 2 floors of the ship are not on top of eachother, so the actors can't walk from the lower level of the ship (cargo bay, infirmary, etc.) to the upper level (mess hall, engine room, bridge) and vice versa.

So as Mal and Simon were going to the infirmary, the camera does a quick turn to follow them, and in there is a cut hidden in that turn to allow the scene to continue on the lower level set, making it seem that it's one continuous shot

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