I have lost all faith in the Oscars!
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Quote:Simon with a coke habit, Book being kicked off the ship because he's black(I guess they forget about Zoe?), and Mal turning out to be sly. That would have got them nominated, probably would have swept the awards. Forget good storytelling and characters you care about, make it political or controversial! Oh, and the Operative turning out to be Inara's pimp and there's a song about how hard in the 'verse it is for him. (I tried to give the song a chance, but it was awful.)
Originally posted by JynnanTonnyx:
"Serenity" never had a chance - it wasn't about drugs. Maybe Simon should have developed a coke habit or something.
Quote:The original Star Wars was nominated for Best Picture, but other than that? Can't think of any.
Originally posted by Algus:
Science Fiction rarely, if ever, receives very many accolades from awards groups that aren't exclusively for science fiction. It's unfortunate, but it's a reality. And when it does win, its usually for something like effects.
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I gave up after the Oscars hit an iceberg.
"Titanic" was one of the worst pieces of go seh I have ever suffered through. Halfway through the movie, I was begging them to drown already.
It won everything that year. That's when I stopped watching.
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Originally posted by JynnanTonnyx:
...I am bewildered. I am shocked. I am ... flabbergahsted. The list goes on. While I was annoyed that "Serenity" didn't even get a nod I can't say I was particularily surprised. The Academy doesn't like those kind of films - too left field, "can't be quantified."
So you may be asking why am I so annoyed. I'm putting this in spoilers because I'm Australian and we aren't getting the Oscars on TV til tonight (damn you IMDB for flashing the results all over your screen)Select to view spoiler:
Brokeback Mountain didn't win best picture. I mean, what the freaking hell!? Hey, I can live with Heath Ledger missing out, but this movie deserved the Best Picture award. What really gets my goat is that it was given to Crash - unoriginal and crappy. And crappified.
"Serenity" never had a chance - it wasn't about drugs. Maybe Simon should have developed a coke habit or something.
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Serenity would have been nominated for an Oscar if Joss had made the character Simon a drug addict and gay.
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I'm personally glad Crash beat Brokeback Mountain. Now, I guess most of you who disagree with me on this are going to call me a homophobe, or some crap like that. But let's face it, romance movies aren't the greatest movies around (except a select few), and one directed by the guy who did The Hulk, starring that bad actor named Heath Ledger.
Brokeback Mountain is an average, or just above average movie that deserves recognition, but not as much as it is receiving.
Crash shocks people, tells it how it is (in most cases), and just because it's "racist" doesn't mean it's not a good movie. Sometimes you need someone to drop something like racism right on your lap and yell "see! It actually does exist, and let's do something about it!"
I would have been far happier if Serenity, Lord of War, Sin City, or Batman Begins were nominated for anything (except Batman- it got one insignificant nomination).
Especially Serenity, and Sin City. I mean, come on, those should have gotten nominated for techical awards such as Visual Effects, Sound, Editing, Art Direction, or cinematography.
P.S.-as soon as the academy starts watching EVERY movie a year, and THEN judging them as Best this, Best that, then and only then, will I take them seriously.
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Originally posted by THENCDUCK:
In order to qualify for an Oscar your movie must either be about racisim, gays, or terrorist.
So, uh, how does that apply to (off the top of my head): Million Dollar Baby, Return of the King, Braveheart, Titanic, Shakespear in Love, A Beautiful Mind, or Gladiator?
I hadn't seen many of the films this year, but I thought they all sounded interesting - my town just doesn't tend to run many of these films, or if they do, it's only for a week and I often don't have time.
Crash being only Best Picture nominee I did see, I thought the acting was fantastic, and it was very nicely shot. Story-wise, I felt it was a slightly too contrived as far as the connections between characters, and waaay to heavy-handed with it's theme -- I thought it was a little over the top in the notion that everything that everyone does is motivated by race.
It was still an impressive, entertaining movie - just not, IMO, the best picture. Even from my admittedly limited knowledge of the nominated films (overall, not just best pic noms), I felt a couple were easily better. Personally, I would have chosen Batman Begins as film of the year, but out of the so-called "prestige" films that are generally up for Oscars, I thought The Constant Gardener was the best drama I saw last year.
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Originally posted by mattcoz:
Simon with a coke habit, Book being kicked off the ship because he's black(I guess they forget about Zoe?), and Mal turning out to be sly. That would have got them nominated, probably would have swept the awards. Forget good storytelling and characters you care about, make it political or controversial! Oh, and the Operative turning out to be Inara's pimp and there's a song about how hard in the 'verse it is for him. (I tried to give the song a chance, but it was awful.)
Simon should have been a gay drug addict (adddicted to the sedatives he gives River) pining after Mal. Mal is in love with the space whore who wants to give up her life of sex and drugs (hey we all saw the syringe!) to be with Mal but in the end she gets killed by an client who can't bare to be apart from her.
I could just go on and on.
I didn't even end up watching the Oscars - Supernatural was on and then my boyfriend played playstation to all hours of the night. I shouldn't get to upset I suppose - most of my favourite movies were never mentioned at the Awards.
It's a shame that sci-fi/fantasy films are only ever considered for technical awards (LOTR excluded). They can't escape their genre. It reminds me when I used to make my mum watch Buffy with me - she couldn't get pass the whole vampire thing.
"Oh this is a cute show. It's about vampires"
"well no not really mum, it's about identity and the struggles of ..."
"oh look at the funny witch"
"...sigh"
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"...So, uh, how does that apply to (off the top of my head): Million Dollar Baby, Return of the King, Braveheart, Titanic, Shakespear in Love, A Beautiful Mind, or Gladiator?..."
MDB - dunno
ROTK - racist as concerns Orcs. Gollum. That's as serious addiction problem as I've ever seen. Sam and Frodo. Pippin and Merry. Legolas with pretty much anyone of either sex he put his mind to pulling.
Braveheart - One man's Freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. The victors get to write the history. Mal did remark on the important distinction between being on the wrong and losing sides.
Titanic - racist as in locking up the Irish in steerage. (Floundering slightly - never bothered watching it. Hitting an iceberg, the boat sinks under the weight of all the Oscars, doesn't it?)
SIL - William Shakespeare has, at one time or another covered most plot lines, but racism in Othello and The Merchant of Venice. Drugs in a Midsummers Nights Dream and Romeo & Juliet. Er... that's my lot. I'm a Philistine.
BM - got me there
Gladiator - again on shaky ground, since it was so boring I never got to the end, but did he do a Spartacus, or overthrow the Empire or something? And the gladiator stuff. Goes without saying, a simmering hotbed of homoeroticism.
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I given up on Oscars ages ago when I noticed what would win and what wouldn't. If anybody who won an academy in the past is in it, the movie is going to win something by default. If it's insanely popular, it's going to win.
And this is regardless if you think that the movie sucks or not.
A lot of movies are trying to fit into the Oscars's formula.....which is dry and most likely bribeable.
I hate it b/c nothing that deserve to win since Lord of the Rings has won during my lifetime.
BrokeBack didn't really need the ocsars to have an award.
There's always a Sci-Fi like award or something.
Q: HAs an sci-fi ever won an academy award?
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Wow, ok
Well I thought Crash was a great movie. I saw all the oscar nominated films, except Goodnight and Goodluck, and thought it was definetly the best movie.
Brokeback was beautifully directed, Capote had a great performance and Walk the Line was well acted and all. Crash seemed a very real and frightening look at how anger in the world leads to intolerance.
Dont get me wrong, I wish Serenity was up there, but in terms of previous years when totally unremarkable movies have won best pciture, it was good to see a movie I thought was good get one
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though I think it will do fairly well anyway.