Amazon.com spamming
POSTED BY: Username2
UPDATED: Friday, March 10, 2006 03:49
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Originally posted by Zeek:
We love this show with a passion and want the rest of the world to experience that love. Is it so wrong that we want everyone to be happy?
I totally understand what you're saying and don't mean to take this too seriously (I assume there's a little tongue in cheek here) but people have a tendency to take this idea a little too far.
What makes me happy ain't gonna work for everyone. If more people understood that there'd be a lot less dead bodies in the world, and no annoying Jehovah's witnesses (good call, kwicko)
How's that for taking it too seriously?

It's all zen man. Let those who love FF love it, and those who don't go on their merry, I say.
m4p
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"I have a Master's degree ... in science!"
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A ha! Thank you very much. Now, onto business.
You all still suck. Especially me. Because I troll myself.
In all seriousness here, there is much truth that has be said on this thread.
It is a sad day when so called browncoats beat to death a perfectly legitimate, yet regrettable, opinion of firefly. That being said, I don't understand the purpose of the original post. Is he trying to bring to our attention a problem so we can peer pressure our more unruly members? Is he pointing his finger at us an wagging it "No, no."
Of course it's stupid that reviews that contain nothing more than "OMG, why did they cancel this wonderful series!?" would be rated helpful. But point me out someone who actually bought anything on Amazon because they saw a 14/15 helpfulness on a review like that? If they did, well, bless their stupidity, because they're going to get a very nice series in return.
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Originally posted by daveshayne:Quote:
Originally posted by ThePistonEngine:
PS: Why do I have to rewrite my signature for every post?
Have you tried going to my firefly and using the profile to set your signture?
David
"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon
Carry the Nuttin'
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Well hey, thanks for seeing my side on this, at least some of you. I'll address some specific points brought up (and yes, I like typing.. sorry):
1. Apparently, since this is the only thing I've posted since registering, I appear to be a troll. While I get where you're coming from in saying this, I think it's pretty obvious why this is the first thing I posted here. I wasn't fanatical enough to be interested in joining this forum just to discuss the show, but I find the whole "campaign" of this thing both intriguing and slightly troubling in some respects. I posted this thread to address that. I knew I'd get that kind of reaction from some people; hence the disclaimer at the beginning.
2. The idea that I reviewed the show's potential. That is actually untrue. If I were to have reviewed the show's potential, I would've given it 5 stars. :) I gave it 3 stars on the merits of the show as it was so far. But I also acknowledged that it had potential. I think that's relevant because it means there are things in the show that are worth watching, even when it's not at its best. Maybe some of the storylines weren't all that good, and I got embarrassed when my roommate was around during certain parts, but I really liked other things about it. You know?
3. Someone said that 3-star reviews are not helpful. I'll admit that I usually go to Amazon.com and look up 1-star reviews to see why I shouldn't buy something. But I've actually known people who only read the 3-star reviews because they usually find them to be the most balanced. Neither fanatical nor hateful, but not necessarily neutral either.
4. Why do I care how many "not helpful" votes my review gets? I don't think "care" is the right word there. I just think it's funny when people vote a review unhelpful simply because they don't like the person's opinion. They aren't reading the review to decide whether or not they want to buy the thing, they're reading it to see who agrees with them. As for why I bothered to keep track of it, I don't think it's all that unusual for people to look through the reviews they've written there and see what sort of reaction they've gotten to them. Or maybe it is and I'm just a flaming wacko! But I doubt it. At least not for that reason.
My original post wasn't to try to get people to "peer pressure" the less tolerant fans into not abusing Amazon.com or whatever. I'm just trying to understand the mindset going on here. And I want people to understand that being really, really fanatical tends to turn off people who aren't so much. That's fine if you want to keep Firefly all to yourself, but it can backfire if you're trying to spread the Firefly love.
I'm also pretty sure that the people who are spending the most time writing multiple reviews on that site -- and going through clicking helpful/not on all those other reviews -- are members of this site and are obviously part of the campaign to make the series appear more popular than it is. That's why I posted this here. But I know it doesn't apply to all of you, or even most of you.
Am I making any more sense now? I know my point isn't really a focused one, and I'm going on all sorts of tangents that don't help to make it any clearer. But thanks for reading.
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I can feel for you. I remember when Fable came out, I wrote a review where instead of praising it, I discussed some of its faults. I concluded it was still a very good game, but that it was not what the producers made it out to be. I felt it was a fair review that would give the potential buyer information on what he was getting. Oh I was flamed to high hell for that from rabid Fable-fanboys.
Now I love Firefly, but its got its faults, Hell, everything has its faults, nothing is perfect. It's too bad that some rabid fans are too obsessive to realize that. I don't think being aware of the show's faults makes me any less of a fan though, heck it might make me even more of one for being able to embrace it despite those faults.
Then again, Im also the type who is literally going to wear a browncoat, so maybe I'm just a rabid fan in disguise?
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Why do I care how many "not helpful" votes my review gets? I don't think "care" is the right word there. I just think it's funny when people vote a review unhelpful simply because they don't like the person's opinion.
So you're saying that you posted this here just because you think it's "funny"? Just feel like sharing the laughs huh? Why not just admit that your vanity got a bit dusted at having your review being judged "unhelpful." Let's at least keep it honest.
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Ok, Username2, let me get this straight.
You watched Firefly, enjoyed it but thought there was weak story lines and some definate faults. You posted a review to that effect.
Then, you noticed your review recieved several not helpful votes and other, obviously child-like written reviews with no substance, recieved helpful votes. You concluded there were people going on Amazon and voting particular ways based on how they liked the series, not on how good the posts are.
And this is where it breaks down for me. Why bring this up? I mean, seriously, what was your intention for posting? Is it a reflection on the vices of human nature to disregard what one doesn't agree with? Is it a commentary some of our souls which are lost without a return of Firefly? I honestly think we need to know.
"I'm also pretty sure that the people who are spending the most time writing multiple reviews on that site -- and going through clicking helpful/not on all those other reviews -- are members of this site and are obviously part of the campaign to make the series appear more popular than it is. That's why I posted this here. But I know it doesn't apply to all of you, or even most of you. "
The only conclusion I have is, you see this Amazon voting a problem to be stopped. How do you propose that to be done.
I know you weren't intending to elicit flaming responses, but if you really don't have a goal, I think the term "troll" does apply.
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Master of the Obvious here...Amazon's "Was this Review Helpful" button simply needs to read "Did you agree with this review?", because that's the way it's used.
-Jonestein
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Oooooooh!!! I wanna do my impression of username2, ready? Oh I am so nervous...my first flame okhereigo:
"Oh woe is me, woe woe woe. No one can see that I am trying to show some deligent, if not incredibly pointless honesty in my review of "Serenity." Here I am, just trying to make the 'verse, (Oh I wish I could say that with feeling but the brown paint from my coat is coming off.) a better place and I get basted for it. Hmm...why doesn't anyone see the genius that is behind the name "Username2?" I mean, it makes perfect sense to me that I should come to the largest fan site for browncoats and just spout my miserable attempt at being non-biased by giving the movie a less-than steller review. Now what's that quote that the crazy chick says...something about being messed with? That'd be real glittery to end this with."
How'd I do?
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Maybe they can somehow make it so you can't use the button if you already own the item. Because it really should only be helpful by those considering buying it, not those who's already seen it.
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Originally posted by Jonestein:
Master of the Obvious here...Amazon's "Was this Review Helpful" button simply needs to read "Did you agree with this review?", because that's the way it's used.
-Jonestein
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OPERATIVE: ...and I'm unarmed.
MAL: Good.
(BLAM!)
FIGHT TO RE-LIGHT!!
www.browncoatsriseagain.com
www.texasbrowncoats.com
www.fortworthbrowncoats.com
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Carry the Nuttin'
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Originally posted by timedoctor:
So you're saying that you posted this here just because you think it's "funny"? Just feel like sharing the laughs huh? Why not just admit that your vanity got a bit dusted at having your review being judged "unhelpful." Let's at least keep it honest.
Funny-strange, not funny-haha.
Also funny-strange are the people who think I'm trolling because either they don't get my point, or because I don't think Firefly is phenomenal so therefore I must be trolling regardless of my point. I am being honest, but you don't like my honesty.
I'm sorry that some of you are so intent on discounting me that you aren't really paying attention to what I'm saying.. which is, I suppose, the same idea behind going through all the less-than-stellar Firefly reviews on Amazon.com and giving them unhelpful votes. Disagreeing with me is one thing, but thinking I'm trying to incite people simply because you disagree with me is quite another.
I do like the idea of changing "Do you find this review helpful?" to "Do you agree with this review?" Would make a lot more sense, even if it's still a useless system.
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