any christians here in this entire site please stand up
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UPDATED: Monday, September 22, 2025 14:45
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Originally posted by Cartoon:
A second suggestion is learn who you need to ignore.
Leelu:
I suggest you start right here. Cartoon is a nut and an extremist. He's the type that thinks blowing up non believers is a good and just thing, said so on occasion. If he didn't believe what he said he'd merely be a Troll, unfortunately he really does believe the sh*t that he taps out on his keyboard. I suggest you stay well clear.
All you'll get otherwise are questions on your sexuality and accusations of being an Islamic terrorist. Mark my words.
Stay Shiny.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
You should never give powers to a leader you like that you’d hate to have given to a leader you fear
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You know, it's funny; I wasn't going to post in this thread after reading it a bit (especially after the person who started it went off on what can only be an LSD inspired rant consigning Sig to the depths of hell), but I changed my mind. I'm a Christian, and by God, I have something to say.
I always wonder (especially in the neocon evangelical era) what happened to the Christianity I grew up with. I can rememner hearing things like "turn the other cheek," and "beating swords to plowshares," and sacrificing ourselves to serve others. I remember "hate the sin, not the sinner," and "be not like the hypocrites that pray in the streets." I remember the Resurrection was about hope and salvation.
Now look at what we have. We bomb people in the name of God (don't think we do? Our fearless leader preaches that he follows God's direction). We torture, and think that it's okay to live in fear. We have protestors that show up waving signs that say "God hates fags." God hates? Since when? Last time I checked, Jesus was about free love and forgiveness. We have people in Missouri trying to create state sponsored religion, and people screaming on television about how good a worshipper they are. Now, people are waiting for the second coming not with hope, but with an attitude of "watch me go to Heaven in the rapture, all you corrupted souls, as I laugh while you suffer." What kind of attitude is that?
I'm sorry, but Christians have become decidedly un-Christian as of late, including the thread's OP, who ranted about someone going to hell. The fact that you praised the 700 club, whose leader (isn't that Pat Robertson?) called for an assassination of a Supreme Court judge and the Venezuelan President, makes me shudder in incredulity.
Sorry, but as the so-called "evangelicals" have taken control, I've shifted farther and farther left go get away from them. I wonder what Jesus would have done - but I doubt it would be to kill or hate anyone.
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Some sci fi programs support the concept of God and faith while others don't. You just have to turn a blind eye to those that depict incorrect information if you want to continue to enjoy the brilliance brought forth in so many sci fi programs.
Those who are atheistic in nature and also feel a need to be "in control" of there own destiny don't realise that god does offer that(control), yet he already knows your response. God exists outside of time (What a concept!, true sci fi fans understand this this concept!). He sees life as a parade, only he sees the beginning and the end at the same time. He touches those who ask for help or need guidance in ways to maximize the number of souls he can save at the end of (our)time. You ARE in control, and God DOES answer (sometimes yes and sometimes no) and he already knows your response because he is OUTSIDE OF TIME and already sees your response.
He's waiting for those who are lost to start looking. People who say they don't see God in their life, aren't looking. I lost a son a few years back of which I was devistated. I felt God had let me down. But looking back to the year leading up to that moment in time, I had realized God was already at work preparing me for the loss of my son. I can't give you a list of it all, but I see his hand in my life.
Science also has proven more than athiests wish to admit. If they were to study, then combine science and mathmatics (basically Microbiology(DNA), Physics,Quantum Physics and Statistical Mathmatics) they would discover something startling.
RAM the firefly fan.
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Originally posted by SevenPercent:
You know, it's funny; I wasn't going to post in this thread after reading it a bit (especially after the person who started it went off on what can only be an LSD inspired rant consigning Sig to the depths of hell), but I changed my mind. I'm a Christian, and by God, I have something to say.
I always wonder (especially in the neocon evangelical era) what happened to the Christianity I grew up with. I can rememner hearing things like "turn the other cheek," and "beating swords to plowshares," and sacrificing ourselves to serve others. I remember "hate the sin, not the sinner," and "be not like the hypocrites that pray in the streets." I remember the Resurrection was about hope and salvation.
Now look at what we have. We bomb people in the name of God (don't think we do? Our fearless leader preaches that he follows God's direction). We torture, and think that it's okay to live in fear. We have protestors that show up waving signs that say "God hates fags." God hates? Since when? Last time I checked, Jesus was about free love and forgiveness. We have people in Missouri trying to create state sponsored religion, and people screaming on television about how good a worshipper they are. Now, people are waiting for the second coming not with hope, but with an attitude of "watch me go to Heaven in the rapture, all you corrupted souls, as I laugh while you suffer." What kind of attitude is that?
I'm sorry, but Christians have become decidedly un-Christian as of late, including the thread's OP, who ranted about someone going to hell. The fact that you praised the 700 club, whose leader (isn't that Pat Robertson?) called for an assassination of a Supreme Court judge and the Venezuelan President, makes me shudder in incredulity.
Sorry, but as the so-called "evangelicals" have taken control, I've shifted farther and farther left go get away from them. I wonder what Jesus would have done - but I doubt it would be to kill or hate anyone.
7%
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He looked bigger when I couldn't see him.
Anyone wanting to continue a discussion off board is welcome to email me - check bio for details.
As I said in the atheism tread, God becomes what the men who use his name want him to be. They can flick true the book find a line that supports there beliefs and prejudices and proclaim that God hates what they hate.
As I said before the fault is not with God the fault is with man.
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Who do you suppose is in there?
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I am not a christian. I will get that out right now. I have no problem with christianity or it's followers, but I have chosen a different path. I have several friends that are Christians, and we, on a regular basis, have "debates" with the understanding that we are not attempting to convert one another, but merely come to a better understanding of the others viewpoint. I find it hard to believe that there isn't a higher force, and as such, I am a very spiritual man. What I don't understand, however, is why all this intolerance runs rampant. It was mentioned, in essence, by the originator of this thread that non believers will burn. It was mentioned that there was proof. No.. no there isn't. Quantum physics, as mentioned by another member of this thread, bears proof. No, again, it doesn't. Through quantum physics, science does come closer to a union with faith, but it does not prove christianity, nor does it prove any other faith. It merely proves that there is more to this world than any of us can truly understand. That is the beauty of Quantum Physics, every answer is really 3 more questions. There will be no winner to this argument of faith, for the questions brought forth by these aspects of our lives will only be answered in our deaths, when we pass on to whatever awaits us on the other side. Science cannot prove faith, never has been able to, never will be able to. To live without having to ask ourselves these questions of our respective faiths would really nullify the point, wouldn't it? Everyone is going to believe what they want to believe and it is in no way our responsibility, or even our right, to tell people they are wrong about what they believe in. Now, you can look at my post and be angered by it, but all I ask is before you send a response telling me I am going to burn in hell, is that you ask yourself what use there would be in saying that. Accept thy brother despite his faults, as they say.
The height of arrogance is the height of creating GOD in one's own image.
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Originally posted by ram:
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Science also has proven more than athiests wish to admit. If they were to study, then combine science and mathmatics (basically Microbiology(DNA), Physics,Quantum Physics and Statistical Mathmatics) they would discover something startling.
RAM the firefly fan.
I have been desperately trying not to comment on this thread, but I just can't help myself. I promise to be good. The statistical mechanics and god talk reminded me of a dorky joke. It's not meant to offend, just offer a little funny.
Thermodynamic Question: Is Hell Exothermic or Endothermic?
If you don't know the answer, then please read the following response. Dr.Schambaugh, of the Oklahoma School of Chemical Engineering, is known for asking questions such as "why do airplanes fly?" on his final exams. His one and only final exam question in May 1997 for his Momentum, Heat and Mass Transfer II course was "Is Hell exothermic or endothermic? Support your answer with proof."
Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following:
First, we postulate that if souls exist, then they must have some mass. If they do, then a mole of souls can also have a mass. So, at what rate are souls moving into Hell and at what rate are souls leaving? I think we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for souls entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, then you will go to Hell. Since there are more than one of these religions and people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and souls go to Hell.
With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change in volume in Hell. Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the ratio of the mass of souls and volume needs to remain constant.
Two options exist:
1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
or,
2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until all Hell freezes over.
So which is it? If we accept the quote given to me by Theresa Manyan during Freshman year, "that it will be a cold night in Hell before I sleep with you," and take into account that I have still not succeeded in having sexual relations with Theresa, then Option 2 cannot be true.
Thus, hell is exothermic.
The student got the only A in the course.
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I'm a Chistian, but I don't believe that I should be confined to the rules of any man-made religion. I go to a Catholic church because that is how I was brought up, but it is the core belief that is the important thing. Human beings are flawed creatures, as long as you believe in something and live a good life, everything will be ok. As Shepherd says "I don't care what you believe in, just believe in it."
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I'm a Christian....
I have to say, I am sure some of those who are preaching 'salvation through my way or the highway" will be quite suprised to see who is in heaven and who is not....
Seems everyone forgets that love has no biased...that rain falls on the wicked also...so pride is the sin one falls into when they say,
"you are saved ONLY IF...blah blah blah" If you know this for a fact, well then Hi God! Where have you been all these years?
-OD 
Relax...there's still tomorrow
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OK i'll admit... if there is one thing that could be noted as poor choice of words, it was using the word "prove" or versions thereof. But there is information (if looked at closely) that could help show the probability of lifes existance with or without the involvement of a higher being. Attach what ever religeon you chose to believe in after that notion.
I just happen to chose Christian. We are after all free to chose.
Also in reference to the person behind the exothermal hell; I had seen that before and found it quite humours and smart. I haven't quite determined whether it's creative genious or creative fiction. (I'm leaning fiction on this one).
I am human and flawed as well. I was just looking to give some help to those who still are confused as to the meaning of life. (No... I'm not making reference to "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy").
The real question I have here is; What is the latest word on Firefly/Serenity? This stuff is too good to let go.
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Originally posted by cartoon:
I never bothered going into the atheist thread because I'm not an atheist and it's not my place to interefere with them. Unfortunately, they don't feel the need to reciprocate, and seem to jump at the chance to stir up a rucuss in Christian threads. This was a lesson I learned all too well when I first went into Christian chat rooms years ago. I won't do so anymore, because (unfortunately) they are generally overrun by nonbelievers who just want to offend believers.
If you had gone into the Atheist thread, you would have seen that there were plenty of "believers" trying to force their faith, uninvited. The certainly seemed to be causing a "ruccus".
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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