Blue Sun and the Alliance

POSTED BY: Melam
UPDATED: Sunday, March 5, 2006 06:17
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MELAM

Saturday, March 4, 2006 2:22 AM

So, A friend pointed out to me, and I've started seeing it a lot as well, that there are a fair number of folk refering to Blue Sun as the Alliance, or at least interchangeably.

Some go so far as to say that it was Blue Sun that took River and conducted the experiments.

So the question is, where did thisconnection come from, and if you say "Duh! Hands of BLUE." I will...well I don't know what I'll do. It'll be somewhat unpleasant though. I want actual statements that say, "Blue Sun is the Alliance" or "They are so close they have Barbeques and invite the Blue Hands Men to hang out."

I mean as far as I could tell Blue Sun is no more than a very large corporation that makes, or distributes a huge volume and viriaty of merchandice. Sort of like Walmart.

"Putting the Me in Mercinary, Jayne Cobb."

"Joss, what is the future of television? What will we watch? And how will we watch it? Surely you must know, for you are wise, and slender."

THESOAPBOXER

Saturday, March 4, 2006 2:31 AM

Duh! Hands of Bl-- oh, wait. Nevermind.

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Originally posted by Melam:

I mean as far as I could tell Blue Sun is no more than a very large corporation that makes, or distributes a huge volume and viriaty of merchandice. Sort of like Walmart.

As far as the series or movie ever went, no one ever even mentioned Blue Sun, let alone paint a dastardly picture on it. Their logo was seen in the background, and we can see that they are the suppliers of many different types of goods and services, but not much else. The "evil corporation" idea came from Joss and company after the series was cancelled.

There are "clues" (which I don't believe have been confirmed officially) that point to Blue Sun having some connection to River.

1) In Ariel, she slices Jayne across the chest, maybe in a crazy daze, or maybe because he had the Blue Sun logo across his chest.

2) In Shindig, she goes after canned foods and crackers and starts tearing them apart. The cracker packets have a distinct Blue Sun logo on them as well.

Everything else is just speculation, but it is a general consensus that this was where Joss was going with this. Of course, should the series continue, with Joss now having this knowledge, he may indeed go an entirely different way...

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MELAM

Saturday, March 4, 2006 2:41 AM

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As far as the series or movie ever went, no one ever even mentioned Blue Sun, let alone paint a dastardly picture on it. Their logo was seen in the background, and we can see that they are the suppliers of many different types of goods and services, but not much else. The "evil corporation" idea came from Joss and company after the series was cancelled.

Even if they are an "evil corporation", why the insistant comments by others that would paint the company as part of the Alliance?

"Putting the Me in Mercinary, Jayne Cobb."

"Joss, what is the future of television? What will we watch? And how will we watch it? Surely you must know, for you are wise, and slender."

JDC

Saturday, March 4, 2006 2:58 AM

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Originally posted by Melam:
Even if they are an "evil corporation", why the insistant comments by others that would paint the company as part of the Alliance?

River's extreme dislike of the logo implies that they were involved in her kidnapping, hence the relation between the Alliance and Blue Sun.

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DAVESHAYNE

Saturday, March 4, 2006 2:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Melam:
Even if they are an "evil corporation", why the insistant comments by others that would paint the company as part of the Alliance?

In one of the special features from the Firefly set the connection between the Aliance government and Blue Sun is explicitly refered to. I think it was also alluded to in the commentary to Serenity the episode.

David

"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon

MELAM

Saturday, March 4, 2006 3:00 AM

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In one of the special features from the Firefly set the connection between the Aliance government and Blue Sun is explicitly refered to. I think it was also alluded to in the commentary to Serenity the episode.

Aha! There we go. Just need to finish watching with commentary. Thanks a bunch.

"Putting the Me in Mercinary, Jayne Cobb."

"Joss, what is the future of television? What will we watch? And how will we watch it? Surely you must know, for you are wise, and slender."

MATTCOZ

Saturday, March 4, 2006 3:57 AM

I have evidence that this Academy is actually a decendant branch of the University of Illinois.

http://www.mrbluehands.com

River: ILL-INI... ILL-INI...

mine is an evil laugh

DAVESHAYNE

Saturday, March 4, 2006 4:12 AM

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Originally posted by mattcoz:
I have evidence that this Academy is actually a decendant branch of the University of Illinois.

http://www.mrbluehands.com

River: ILL-INI... ILL-INI...

Now it all makes sense. It's not about keeping state secrets - the alumni association is just really agressive about signing up members.

David

"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon

ASARIAN

Saturday, March 4, 2006 7:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Melam:

So, A friend pointed out to me, and I've started seeing it a lot as well, that there are a fair number of folk refering to Blue Sun as the Alliance, or at least interchangeably.

Some go so far as to say that it was Blue Sun that took River and conducted the experiments.

Duh! Hands of BLUE! :)

Not kidding, actually. In Shindig, River rips the labels off three cans, and she's crushing a box of crackers. It has a visible, not emphasized, "Blue Sun" logo on it. But what River says, I think, ties Blue Sun in, certainly associatively, with the Hands of Blue. River mutters things like "Hands that go everywhere" and "These are the ones that take you." True or false, River certainly associates the Blue Hands with Blue Sun.

Also, I would not immediately go so far as to say it was Blue Sun who experimented on River. But, as I believe has been pointed out here earlier, in Ariel, when Simon boots up the Neuro-Imager, in the hospital, the image of the Blue Sun logo appears above River as it's firing up. This, at least, suggests a link between Blue Sun and medical research.

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FURIOUSMONKEYBOY

Saturday, March 4, 2006 8:01 AM

there are so many things in the episodes that we will never fully understand...so many subtle references that could have ben blaring omens....but...damn FOX execs...."A special place in hell is reservered for them"

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