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POSTED BY: dreamtrove
UPDATED: Friday, March 3, 2006 06:10
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Thursday, March 2, 2006 9:23 PM

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Seriously, I don't see Cheney going anywhere. I pesonally think Cheney is the best VP this country has had in several decades.
Bush's approval rating is somewhere around 30-35%. That percentage about matches with the percentage that thinks creationism should be taught in schools and abortion should be banned under ANY circumstances. The loony Xtian right-wing fringe.

Cheney's approval rating is somewhere around 15-20%. For the life of me, I can't imagine who those 15-20% are and what they're thinking. All I can guess is that in any population you have those three standard deviations from the norm.... I've tried to follow Auraptor's (and AJ's, and Hero's) logic on this and it's a cold trail. The opinion seems so far away from reality that I get boggled, truly boggled.


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Friday, March 3, 2006 1:17 AM


Wow! I'm aparently WAY out of the loop lately...

Since when did Cheney take over? Last time I bothered to looked at the conspiracy, kook stuff, Rove was the evil mastermind behind the throne.

Anyway, it seems prety obvious to me what's up.

I remember reading somewhere that Cheney said he had no plans to run for president in 08. I'd love to post a link, but I don't remember where I read/saw it.

If that is in fact the case, the GOP needs to put someone who will run in 08 in the VP position to get them some "leadership facetime". If they can get a reasonably popular republican in the VP seat for the next two years and avoid any more major screwups during that time then that person gets a big leg-up in a bid for president in 08.

They can say, "Look how things improved since I became VP."

The down side is if they do this and there ARE any more major screwups then whover takes the VP slot is prety much scewed as their oponent can say "Look, they put in a new VP and things stayed the same" or "Look, they put in a new VP and it just got WORSE!"

I dunno. I do know I said "Condi for prez" about 3-4 years ago and everyone laughed at me...

I still havn't heard anything to indicate she would be interested in running, but I still can hope...

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Friday, March 3, 2006 6:10 AM

dc4bs,

The fact that I agree with everything you just posted makes this disturb me more.

"kook conspriacies...Rove"

Um. I agree. What planet we're you on. We've all been on planet Cheney is in control since 1995, when Cheney took control. Cheney's retirement is entirely related to his popularity, and the fact that he feels there are people he can trust, which means the rest of can't. Rove has never been anything but a Republican strategist, and frankly, charisma issues aside, I don't mind having him on the team. I think he's quite talented.

Since Bush is a trained monkey, Cheney is president. Clinton wasn't a trained monkey, but he was still Cheney's lap dog. This is where Bush-is-Clinton starts. But I think this is all old hat. Which is to say, I think most everyone's already on this page. Joss is on this page. How's it like where you are?

Anyway, that aside, yes, it's clear the GOP needs to get a decent runnable candidate in '08, and Cheney isn't it. Condi has serious republican ties and could be a good republican if she could separate herself from her husband.

Allen is still learning how to be a republican, and on that, I would axe him from the list. I think that freshman senators should never run for higher office. Hagel will have completed a second term in '08, and I feel he's a little green for the big chair, but I like him, so I'll lower the bar, but Allen is presently still a freshman, ie. in his first term. He shouldn't be thinking of the whitehouse. Hillary is another one.

McCain is undoubtedly the logical choice. Esp. from a point of a GOP that actually wants to win a 2008 presidential election. I like Condi, even when she's badgirl NeoCondi, mostly I guess I still credit her with ending the cold war, as Bush Sr.'s Soviet policy person. She's also occassionally had the faux pas of telling things like it is in this administration where you apparently just don't do that. I think if she were under McCain he could pull her back into republican normalcy.

But honestly, Condi running in '08 now is probably capable of losing to Hillary, all voter bigotry aside. Hillary has a way with words. She could sell iceboxes to eskimoes. Condi is abrasive as all get out. If she thinks people are idiotic, she'll say they're idiotic, and that won't win the hearts and simple minds of the voting public.

My personal conspiracy theory is I think that Bush intends the Republicans to lose in '08, not out of a master plan for future Republican glory, but because he's done with the party, it's outlived its usefulness, for him, and he'll just chuck it out. By Bush, of course, I mean Cheney. Bush is a trained monkey who is overpaid to play president. But when I think about the real attitude of Cheney and Co towards the party, and these party loyalists who stand by them on every misstep, I just have to chuckle. But it's sad. Anyway, Bush/Cheney the social democrat it/thing interfered in my local Senate election to ensure that there was no opposition to evil pet Hillary, which was all sometime after I posted that I thought Bush was planning to throw the election to Hillary in '08. By Bush again I mean Cheney. And if I'm right, he will select Condi as VP.

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