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The Alliance is a good thing

POSTED BY: CTHawk
UPDATED: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 23:38
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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 8:17 PM

Not totally. The expansion was what the Alliance wanted. But the idea of being "independent" they saw as a having the potential to infect other planets already under their control. Thus, they had to crush it, or risk losing what they already had. They tell everyone, your Alliance for your own good and give it the label "Unification" because they see the system as unified under one rule.

The Alliance said everyone was going to follow Alliance rule, and the border/rim worlds said "Uhh, no." At that point, the Alliance had already decided the whole system was theirs and thus it is a rebellion from their perspective. Just like the U.S. Colonials were seen as rebels, not revolutionaries by the British (it was part of the British Empire from the British view, which is why the Colonials were pissed because they had no representation in the Empire). The Browncoats may have seen themselves as seperate, but the Alliance said they weren't and reinforced this with military action. The Browncoats reciprocate, and thus a war:

A war for UNIFICATION, from the Alliance view.
A war for INDEPENDENCE, from the Independents view.

A war versus rebellious citizens who aren't enlightened.
A war by revolutionaries who want to stay free.

Of course, one could also argue that since it was the Alliance (or some earlier form of it) that terraformed (or maybe outsourced it to Blue Sun) the outer planets, that they technically were Alliance territory all along. Again, rebellion.

The last thing the Alliance needed to do after declaring they owned the 'verse was to let any one world say no to their rule. What happens if the people of Osirus suddenly decide, "Hey, if the people of Whitefall are enlightened enough to rule themselves, then we can too because we are even more enlightened then they are"? The Alliance falls apart, slowly at first then quickly like a ball of snow rolling downhill until WHAM! it is no more. Then you have over 70 worlds all competing and conflicting with eachother and it becomes alot like present day Earth.

I'm not saying the Alliance was wrong, just that it was a rebellion they had to stop to prove they were right (from their point of view).



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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by TenthCrewMember:
Additionally, I believe the whole reason for the Independent uprising was that the Alliance WAS NOT big enough to control all the planets and moons, and really didn't care what the border worlds were doing until the Border Worlds decided they wanted out. In an effort to keep planets closer to the core from getting the same idea, they tried to crush the rebellion before it began (a preemptive move) and that proved folly as the Independent movement used it as a "Look look! See the violence inherent in the system! Help help! We're bein' repressed!" and it only fueled the cause.



Oh, so it was like a War of Norther--Central Aggression?

Though, that still doesn't jive with the fact that it was a unification / invasion war. That's the key difference between this and any civil war.

It does make sense within the context of your other point, however; it seems perfectly plausible that the Alliance Parliament believed any independent world would eventually be a threat to itself, and perhaps under the auspices of 'spreading civilization' wanted to nullify this threat. A closer parallel, then, might be the US seizure of Native American lands: under the guise of spreading civilization, the central government seized all territory not within its control that it could. KF



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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 11:37 PM

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"Look look! See the violence inherent in the system! Help help! We're bein' repressed!"


LOL!

Oh great, now I gotta go watch THAT show again...

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 11:38 PM

I think there are a lot of parallels, like the European colonisations all over the world. "Sure we're killing Zulus on mass, but its okay because we're civilising them..."

Oldest excuse in the book.



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