Can we legally form a church?
POSTED BY: Hixie129
UPDATED: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 01:29
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Originally posted by BrowncoatGhost:
Should I be disturbed, ashamed, incredulous or dying of laughter that this was the very first thread this late volunteer to the Browncoats has read here? Perhaps a combination of all the above? I know the last certainly applies.
In any case, I seem to have found my unit at last.And Cap'n Tightpants has a plow, not a maypole, gorram it -- though I suppose it could be turned into a maypole if it were b --
*cough* Sorry, can't continue. My voice seems to be frightening the cattle. Maybe if I droned...
'And when the brightness of the 'verse was shut away in the oblivion of the hungry fox spirit, lo, did one and a thousandscore Browncoats raise their voices in keening grief and outrage. "Thou hast forsaken us!" cried they. "Nay, I have forgotten thee not," intoned The Whedon from yonder golden hills in the Valley of Serenity, "for this 'verse was created of mine very heart and blood and soul, and yea, its loss too pains me. Thus shall I toil ceaselessly until it is restored and one and all may once again partake of its shininess." In harmonious unison did the Browncoats cry their relief, but yet again spake The Whedon, "Alas, the wounds to mine heart and blood and soul have been grievous and many, and thus shall I require of thine aid. Go forth and speak of Serenity and her nine shiny souls that those beyond shall awaken the Browncoats within them, for yea, a true Browncoat well knows when injustice has been done to one and all, and none will stand to allow one's fellow Browncoats to twist in the wind thus. So shall each Browncoat rally to our shindig, until the noise we make is so great that oblivion shall be rendered asunder and the hungry fox spirit cannot help but return the 'verse which is rightfully ours. Fear not the long nights filled with Reavers ahead, my devoted, for although it take uncounted sunsets, no one can take the sky from us." Thus did The Whedon's Browncoats set forth and speak of Serenity and her nine shiny souls, and thus do the armies of Independence grow. Yea, with the steadfastness of fireflies burning in their hearts and true serenity glowing in their eyes do they yet march forth, until such a sunset as This Land is returned them as is just and proper. And none who send of the signal hath The Whedon ever forgotten.'
*peers about* Good, looks like the cattle's gone to sleep. Then again, maybe I need sleep more, seeing as I had only three hours last night and can only blame this post on too many strawberries.
Hi BrownCoatGhost,
Welcome aboard,
The Cap'n does have a plow, it can be worshipped it any manner, spiritual or physical, There can be icons made of it. The maypole is another form of worship, both are acceptable.. Worshiping of the Apostles/Saints/Relics/Icons/Angels etc, in any manner is acceptable in all forms.
That was a very good verse you wrote: Do you have title, should it be a psalm or is it part of the Song of Songs.
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Ok, if not a Religion, then say...Military? Hey if those Star Wars guys can have a 501th legion, why not Serenity Valley Vets?
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I think we are decided that it's religion.
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I'm still not comfortable worshiping Joss Whedon. As much as I love him, he's a human person, and that just doesn't work in my brain.
I don't think we should have to base the firefly religion off of the christian bible, considering the fact that the show isn't Christian. Sure, there are Christian elements, but there are also Buddhist elements which you're not even taking into account. Joss could simply be the Buddah, enlightened through trials.
Ooo, and here's a new good arument: If you're making Joss the "Messiah" the characters can't be apostles because they aren't his followers. They don't even inhabit the same plane of existance as him. If you are using the chirstian model, that doesn't make sense, unless you make one of the characters the Messiah (which I'm in no way suggesting).
I don't think we even need a God figure, as the message of the show isn't that worshipping anything actually helps anything. The show follows more of a "do what's right, and don't worry about the after life" senario. In the words of Mal "I aint lookin' for help from on high. That's a long wait for a train don't come." It seems to me that this "religion" should be more free form, allowing each member to worship their diety of choice.
The fact that Saffron is hot does not qualify her for apostlehood. Her character is more of an outsider. She tempts and torments them without us ever really finding out why. Joss hadn't finished explaining her, clearly, but as she is she doesn't represent the beliefs and attitudes that I want to take from the Firefly 'Verse. Of course you can do whatever you like, but I don't know that it can be made official without some kind of group agreement.
And on that strain, you seem to be taking a "we all agree" stance on your opinions, without anyone really backing you up. If everyone really does agree with you, that's fine, but I think before anything can be officially made part of this new "religion" a majority has to agree on it.
Also, I don't think you can make a branch that's really a gun, an angel. I mean... everybody loves the branch, but it's not a person. It's just an object.
I think we disagree on too many subjects, unfortunately. I'm afraid I won't be joining your church. Which is a shame, because I really like the doctrine, just not the interpretation.
Say... that's why I left the other churches... lol.
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Frankie, best wishes to you in your spiritual search.
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I think a couple of people are missing the point….. This is supposed to be funny! Do not give notice to your current church that you are going to leave it. We are NOT going to buy a ranch in Ghana and drink Kool-Aid. Got it?
Just think, let your imagination go, and try to keep it with-in this Christian church form. I am sorry that this is the church form; it is what I am familiar with, 16 years of a Catholic education. Graduate school was the first time I attended a none Catholic institution. BUT on my very first post I had asked if someone wanted to add an eastern flavor to the church. After a 100 posts on this thread its now really late. The best thing to do is to start a separate Eastern Religion.
So… back to imagination, Church gets started, bible created, we sell out the RCA Superdome for a Church Revival. Imagine everybody seated and Apostles walk down center aisle while hymns are being sung and Amazing Joss by Melam. The big stadium screens flashing different episodes, a couple of people do readings from the bible, kind of like a Mass. Then during the Mass, together, we all eat the strawberry and drink the muddersmilk at the same time (probably a little bottle of Bailey's like the one you get on an airplane, but with a muddersmilk label). Everybody cheers and gives the person next to you a brotherly kiss.
All over the world people on different feast days of the Apostles/Saints/Angels etc…. people have created their different traditions for worshiping the favorites. Different sects and religious orders are formed, including and not limited to… Mal maypole day and the Feast Day of the Archangel Branch.
I become a Monk and form a monastic sect "the Order of River's Feet". I move to a cave in the Sinai Desert where I live and worship River's Feet. I write the Order's by-laws. Things like which color to paint her toenails on her feast days and Holidays. Thinking about the Christmas holidays, do we paint her nails red on the left foot and green on the right or do we alternate colors, green, red, green, red, green, etc. Do I start with the left foot or do I start with the right foot. Do I start with green or red? I must meditate on this!
You see there is so much to do. It's important because this tradition will be passed on from generation to generation, millennium to millennium until the verse to come.
It would also be great to have a Monkette join me in my religious fervor!!!!
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There can be a break off sect of this religion that uses a more eastern kind of thinking. I actually like the Buddah idea. I think the reason you haven't gotten much about the eastern influence is that many of us just aren't that familiar with it.
I myself had made suggestians along the christian lines but I went to a UB church when I was little and honestly haven't been in any church for about 10 years. The catholic intricasies (that word is spelled wrong 
) kinda give me an uncomfortableness.
I realize that this is meant to be fun and it is but that is what I think
...On a different note I don't care if you like the maypole or the the plow, they both represent fertility and the sowing of seeds and such (thee hee. I am evil yes? 
) I just like the idea of dancing around Mal with ribbons (ribbons have so many possibilities) and yes I know that it would really be Nathan but a girl can dream can't she?
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Your right Kayna, and I would have been totally happy with Budda if someone would have walked us thru it. But since it didn't happen I went with what I knew.
I think we have come this far, we should continue in this direction. I don't know how much gas is left in this tank.
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Originally posted by Hixie129:
I don't know how much gas is left in this tank.
Ayatollah Khomeini sez:
Why dont we use that remaining gas in the tank to douse ourselves and light a match to speed up the process of going to hell. I would rather shave my beard than join the "church" of Serenity.
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Don't be so hasty in what you believe is all I'm going to say. Belief can halp you accomplish incredible things, inexplicable things. But it can also be your downfall, and can provide the opertunity for scam artists to leave you pennyless.
Plus, forming our own church would put us in the same catagory as Scientologists.
And then we'd be related to Tom Cruise too. 
Don't even think about getting support from him either. The man didn't understand Pirates of the Caribbean, he won't understand us.
No, I am not insane, I am crazy. Thank you for asking.
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