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POSTED BY: Hanswurst
UPDATED: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 20:58
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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 2:55 PM

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Originally posted by Hanswurst:
Yes, the breaking the glass symbolizing both the destruction of the Temple at Jerusalem and also the fragility/brevity of life--an applicable idea here.


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Originally posted by grizwald:
And the breaking of the glass is a traditional thing at Jewish weddings.





ma-zel tov

...and we all shine on...

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:12 PM

Sorry, but I'm pretty sure Mr U just recorded his message into his lovebot, and programmed it to speak when anyone entered.

If Mr U was really in there, then why repeat the message for the Operative?

TheRealMe, First Officer of the Sereni-Tree

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:26 PM

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Originally posted by milford:
By the way, not to be crude, but do you think they really, well, you know, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more? How does that work with a robot? Why do I care?



Well of course. She is a "Lovebot". They're expensive, custom-made-to-order, hard to obtain (what company would advertise them publicly?), and earn you a black mark in the Companion registry. KF



~KF

Lord, I'm walking your way. Let me in, for my feet are sore, my clothes are ragged.
Look in my eyes, Lord, and my sins will play out on them as on a screen. Read them all.
Forgive what you can and send me on my path. I will walk on until you bid me rest.

~Haven Prayer

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MER
Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:28 PM

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Originally posted by Melam:
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Which by theway, a friend and I are planing on cosplaying these two to my prom. I already bought the fabric for her dress and everything.



I hope you take pics for us to see. I'm interested in seeing how it comes out :)

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:28 PM

UnregisteredCompanion wrote:

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Ya know...

the first time I saw the movie and Mr. Universe was first introduced, I was all "Who the hell is THIS dork!"

But after a few viewings, he has actually grown on me. Weird, huh?

~~~~~
"Funny and sexy. You have no idea. And you never will."


Well, considering that Mr. Universe may be reasonably seen as the "voice of the audience", or more specifically, as the "voice of the online community"...

I think Mr. Universe is kinda Joss' tip o' the hat to us (and all his other fansite worshipers), so it's not a bad thing that we like him at least a little, even if he is geeky and cheeky. Just like us.



Thoughtfully,

zoid
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:39 PM

First of all don't get me wrong on this, because I LOVE Serenity and Firefly! The movie did a very difficult thing playing to new audiences and those already familiar with the show/characters. Not an easy task!

But I will say that though I liked the Mr. Universe character, I found his presence a little too contrived. If he had even been mentioned in the series once prior, it would have made more sense. But the crew just seems to come to a point where they need help, and Wash says "Let's call Mr. Universe!"

Obviously, his character is a necessity in order to give Mal a means of sending out the transmission from Miranda as well as finding the subliminal code in the transmission that affects River, so he has to be there. I just felt that it could've been handled a little bit better.

I aim to misbehave.

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:41 PM

Kizyr wrote:

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...She is a "Lovebot". They're expensive, custom-made-to-order, hard to obtain (what company would advertise them publicly?), and earn you a black mark in the Companion registry. KF

Dude. If you've got a Lovebot(TM), you've got no need for a Companion, so the Guild can 'black mark' away until their dainty little fingers turn blue...

And let's not forget that he 'did the right thing by her'. He went beyond the call of chivalry. I mean, why buy the cow-bot, when you can get the synthetic milk for free? Unless of course he had personally modded the unit to bear him children -- like, maybe, implanted a clone incubator in her innards -- and he wanted them not to be born bastard-bots... *shivers and chuckles, simultaneously*



Overanalytically,

zoid
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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:54 PM

To: TheRealMe:
Why apologize? Your interpretation is just as valid as mine.

I don't think he was "still" in there when the Op walked by, and of course there was a motion detector, etc. It's just that the scene suggests to me the weird sci-fi idea of transfer of essense, etc. It's more interesting (to me).

Here's another example:

Mal calls Inarra a whore in an OOG flashback, and I have to wonder that with her upper class upbringing as a Companion, he was the first man to ever call her that. If so, it implies a lot about her character--and of course the nature of desire/attraction, etc.--that she falls in love with the only man who ever called her a whore.

Any solid proof to the contrary welcome. If it's not in the scripts, then that perhaps is one place I might say the series could have taken more risks: exploring the ambiguity of relationships even more so than it already does. While the ambivalence between she and Mal is obvious--perhaps some FanFic writer will take that dynamic deeper.

To fellow writers: the more character risks you take in your work, the deeper the characters become.

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 4:36 PM

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Originally posted by Hanswurst:
Well, actually, he couldn't have typed the message because his voice is woven in with hers as she speaks. And as a sci-fi fan I'm naturally against the mundane idea that he merely recorded his voice. The whole thing suggests to me some kind of odd "transfer" yes, transfer, of his essense, his fading consciousness, in a sci-fi kind of way. The dull answer is he verbally recorded it. It's your world, you decide.


That may be the "sci-fi kind of way", but it's not the Firefly way. He just recorded it and the love-bot had a motion sensor that triggered the message. If it was his consciousness, do you think he would have told the operative?

edit: I see you kindof answered that question already. But my point stands that this isn't your standard sci-fi, the simplest answer is most likely the correct one.

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 4:45 PM

I respect your subjective opinion on the matter, and thank you for engaging in a dialogue with me about my own subjective opinion.

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Originally posted by mattcoz:
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Originally posted by Hanswurst:
Well, actually, he couldn't have typed the message because his voice is woven in with hers as she speaks. And as a sci-fi fan I'm naturally against the mundane idea that he merely recorded his voice. The whole thing suggests to me some kind of odd "transfer" yes, transfer, of his essense, his fading consciousness, in a sci-fi kind of way. The dull answer is he verbally recorded it. It's your world, you decide.


That may be the "sci-fi kind of way", but it's not the Firefly way. He just recorded it and the love-bot had a motion sensor that triggered the message. If it was his consciousness, do you think he would have told the operative?

edit: I see you kindof answered that question already. But my point stands that this isn't your standard sci-fi, the simplest answer is most likely the correct one.

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