Last of the Mohicans/Firefly

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UPDATED: Friday, March 3, 2006 19:52
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SARAHSMILE

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by XeroGravity:
That movie is my #2 most favorite movie of all time. It's sacred.

BUT... it has xero-resemblance to the original book. I've read "Last of the Mohicans" 2X and the movie is not based on the book. That text you quote isn't in the book. It comes direct from the movie. (in fact, there is no text from the book in the movie, period).

Thank goodness for that. I was an English major in college and all around lover of literature, but I find James Fenimore Cooper a bit hard to get through. This is one of those times you have to give credit to the Hollywood version.

Saffron: He's my husband.
Mal: Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!

XEROGRAVITY

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:47 AM

I will actually amend what I said... don't read the book. It's terrible compared to the movie.

Honestly, it is. The two are so radically opposite in their storyline. It's an intellectual curiosity more than anything else. James Fenimore Cooper was trying to write a novel that would play well on both sides of the pond (Atlantic ocean). The Brits were still pissed about the revolutionary war and the Americans were still clueless rustics (I think we still are, but who knows?).

If you do wanna read the book, then read all 4 of them (the "leatherstocking" books). There's magic in the movie that you'll lose if you read the books (the movie is infinitely better).

If you only want to read one book to get a taste of it, read "The Deerslayer". That's the best one (IMHO).

But I haven't read them in eons (with the exception of LOTM ~ which I read a 2nd time after the movie cuz I couldn't remember the books being as fookin amazing as the movie was).

XG

No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

XEROGRAVITY

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:23 AM

My dear,

You realise there is an 11 second difference between the time you and I both posted our most recent messages.

How strange it is that I already answered your post with my generalization.

XG

11 seconds can be such a curiously long period of time.

SHO

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:32 AM

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Originally posted by ThePistonEngine:
Somehow I can't believe you've seen it the second most times of any movie.
The line is "Well we kinda face to the north and real sudden like, turn left."

Quote:
Originally posted by mphillips:
My absolutely second favorite movie I've seen in the theater..From the music as it's own character, the stunning photography, the storyline and the actors all top notch..Untill Serenity, LOTM was the movie I'd seen the most times......

Just face north and turn left, sudden like

One of my favorite all time movies, as well. I have seen it many more times than Serenity, though, because I am a recent addict and there aren't enough hours in the day.

Oh, I believe the movie line ends: "...real subtle like, turn left", btw.

"We've done the impossible. That makes us mighty"

SARAHSMILE

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:36 AM

Xerogravity: Strange how the time works!

I merely thought it would be polite (before the uninitiated run out to the library) to point out the gulf between the book and movie. No issues with Cooper - he was writing for an audience that had far different sensibilities than our modern one. If you loved the movie, I fear most readers would be a trifle let down by the book!

Saffron: He's my husband.
Mal: Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!

THEPISTONENGINE

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:46 AM

I watched the scene a couple more times. You're right, it is "subtle." Had to listen for it before I heard it.

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Originally posted by sho:
Quote:
Originally posted by ThePistonEngine:
Somehow I can't believe you've seen it the second most times of any movie.
The line is "Well we kinda face to the north and real sudden like, turn left."

Quote:
Originally posted by mphillips:
My absolutely second favorite movie I've seen in the theater..From the music as it's own character, the stunning photography, the storyline and the actors all top notch..Untill Serenity, LOTM was the movie I'd seen the most times......

Just face north and turn left, sudden like

One of my favorite all time movies, as well. I have seen it many more times than Serenity, though, because I am a recent addict and there aren't enough hours in the day.

Oh, I believe the movie line ends: "...real subtle like, turn left", btw.

"We've done the impossible. That makes us mighty"

XEROGRAVITY

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 2:01 AM

No no. I'm not making any accusations in pointing that out. Just pondering the curious marvels of fate.

The odd timing almost makes me want to rethink my atheism. Shit like this keeps happening on a regular basis. The universe is either very quirky or I'm cursed to have to ponder the mathematical improbabilities of my daily life.

XG

THEPISTONENGINE

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 2:07 AM

Maybe. Or maybe there are simply so many different ways coincidences like that can happen, they actually occur on a frequent basis.

Quote:
Originally posted by XeroGravity:
No no. I'm not making any accusations in pointing that out. Just pondering the curious marvels of fate.

The odd timing almost makes me want to rethink my atheism. Shit like this keeps happening on a regular basis. The universe is either very quirky or I'm cursed to have to ponder the mathematical improbabilities of my daily life.

XG

K4S4EVA

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 2:19 AM

I could really see mal looking at inara and her saying what are u looking at?
MAL: why i'm looking at you

Simon: Can you move your feet? Kaylee. Stay with me. Can you move your feet?
Kaylee: Are you asking me to dance...?

XEROGRAVITY

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:10 PM

Michael Mann's "Natty Long-rifle" from the book's is equal to the original conception of the character in Cooper's books... a hunter, a trapper, a frontiersman "Mann's man" ~ every inch of him is manlike. There ain't no touchy-feely "I just wanna hug you and have deep coversations" here. Just "I'm trying to live free... keep clear of my rifle and don't make war with me".

In the books, Hawkeye was a close friend to Chingatchgook, not an "adopted son". That Mann could even be "allowed" to make this film is a fucking miracle. But he did, and so it is that people like me have something that entertains them. This definately wasn't "Dances With Wolves", yet against all odds it was "allowed" to be made.

I went to see this film expecting it to be average. I was blown away, and kept coming back for encores of it. It never gets old, it just gets better with each viewing. It's one of the best films I've ever seen, period.

Critics hate it, which is all the more reason for me to love it. But (as much as I hate critics) I didn't need critical hatred to know I loved it... I went back to see it again and again at the theatre. Got the DVD, the soundtrack, the whole 9 yards.

It's epic.

I haven't been so in love with a film since "Star Wars", "Raiders...", or "Conan" (the original)...

This ain't the book. This is pure fuckin magic.

XG

No such thing as gravity. The "New World" that was just needs conquering.

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