Bush hands security of America over to group with possible Al Qaeda connections
POSTED BY: dreamtrove
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 02:49
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Dinky
The world is alas, far more complicated than it appears. I vote republican as well. Bush, unfortunately, is Clinton. The last actual republican administration was Bush Sr. Bush's backers are Clintons backers, and well it's long complicated, and already been posted by all us on the looney right ad nauseum already, I mean to assemble this argument somewhere, like on a website. Anyway, the first solid objections care from republicans, the first support for the idea came from a democrat, Joe Lieberman. But mostly, democrats do nothing. Almost all the supposed 'democrat' resistance to Bush's mistakes has actually been forwarded by republicans, and then democrats join in the chorus, and then the left media awards all the credit to the democrats, because the media is a democrat.
The resistance to this came from John Warner and the resistance to wiretapping came from Arlen Spector, the resistance to torture came from Lindsay Graham and John McCain. The last big resistance from a democrat was Russ Feingold opposing the Patriot Act, but Russ is about as much of a democrat as Lincoln Chaffe is a republican, maybe less so.
Speaking as a New Yorker, I have major issues with it. Dubai financed the 9/11 attacks, according to the CIA, and the 911 commission, neither one of which are partisan, or are generally wrong, and the UAE probably did so because it stood to gain financially. These are people who never do things for ideolgocial reasons. This deal is a big 'thank you' to them from Bush for letting us use their bases for the Iraq war.
Here was my earlier thread on the subject, in case you missed it, I think it says it nicely in pictures.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=18218
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Dubai financed the 9/11 attacks, according to the CIA, and the 911 commission, neither one of which are partisan, or are generally wrong
Money was transferred through privite banks and the hawala network that's existed in asia and the middle east for centuries.
The 9/11 commission stated:
"Our investigation has uncovered no credible evidence that any person in the United States gave the hijackers substantial financial assistance. Similarly, we have seen no evidence that any foreign government-or foreign government official-supplied any funding."
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch5.htm
Once again, please someone show me any evidence that Dubai Ports World is involved with Al Qaeda, or terrorism in general, in any way at all. Otherwise it's just politics and xenophobia.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Okay, I knew this would get some responses
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184599,00.html
Go ahead, troll away.
I'm not gloating with the I told you he was evil, I'm actually concerned, I think this is a bad idea.
I think this post is in error.....
more like:
US voters hand security of America over to wackjob with possible Al Qaeda connections
" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "
The Killers
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html
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Originally posted Dinky:
I didn't call anyone an idiot. I called the rumours idiot :).
I never said you did. I however called Bush an Idiot. I did this because he is an idiot.
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And I know as much as you THINK you know.
You don't. You really really don't.
Furthermore I have more respect and faith for Dreamtroves lies and rumours than your facts and figures, which you haven't seem to have posted...
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Bush didn't start this war, but you liberals seem to think he did, and want it to be that way.
Erm, yeah he did. Were you sleeping in 2003? Because he really did start the Iraq war, unless you think he ordered American troops into the region by accident, I don't know maybe he woke up to go to the toilet in the middle of the night and hit the War button instead of the Flush.
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And that's just it, my belief differs from yours. Just as it does from every other liberal democrat out there, even the very senators show they have no respect for Bush even though he is the President. But I do, why? Again because I said that's just the way I live my life, I believe in this country and I respect a lot of people I don't like or don't agree with. I believe a man in that position deserves respect.
I'm not a Liberal Democrat, you're confused and you’re talking like you know me when you know nothing about me. I don't see me voting LibDem anytime in the future, they haven't a clue, neither do I see myself voting Labour or Tory anytime soon, I just have this crazy irrational like for personal liberties and freedoms which both parties respect about as much as Bush does.
And lastly people don't deserve respect because they run a country, and if you stopped for a moment you'd realise you probably agree with me. I can give a whole list of state heads who I don't respect, Jacque Chirac for instance, but I imagine I can give a whole lot that you don't either, Mussolini perhaps. Bush isn't super human, neither is any other state leader, if he acts like an idiot and his policies start getting people killed, if his Administration fucks up and people die, he loses respect, you blindly respect and follow him if you wish, but don't act like your talking from a position of intelligence.
I like your attempt to demonise me by saying in a roundabout way that I'm anti-American though, keep trying, you might even get it.
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There are plenty of people on my side that believe the same as you, only visa versa about Bill Clinton and so.
Clinton was involved in the lasting peace process in North Ireland; Bush hasn't done a damn thing. I'm not defending Clinton and I don't wish to discuss the subject with you.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
You should never give powers to a leader you like that you’d hate to have given to a leader you fear
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Citizen,
You're not a LibDem? You had me fooled.
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I don't respect, Jacque Chirac for instance
Oh, but he tries so hard. Gag. Okay. I can't even joke about this. Chirac is probably the worst conservative out there, worse than Bush. It's not a slight, but an actual fact that the only thing keeping Chirac out of prison is the immunity granted him by the office of the presidency. It's like having president DeLay.
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I think this post is in error.....
more like:
US voters hand security of America over to wackjob with possible Al Qaeda connections
LOL. Well, that too.
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