Fox launching new network.
POSTED BY: erico
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 19:42
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So they cancel quality television shows like Firefly and Arrested development, claiming there is no audience and they want to fill that time up with shows that bring in the bucks. But then, they're launching yet ANOTHER crap hole island network; oh and of course there is NO ROOM for the good shows so they go ahead and fill it with crap shows. I.JUST.DON'T.GET.IT.
Maybe I am an alien...
Let's just admit it, the vast population of the first world countries, are incredibly ignorant and stupid.
I don't even really watch many new shows anymore, because they are all the same shit over and over and over.
Give me Firefly, Lost, Buffy, (the old) Alias, the first 6 seasons of The Simpson's, and 3rd Watch.
Now THAT in my opinion is good television.
"I aim to misbehave."
"Can't do something smart, do something right".
HOMER: "Oh Lisa, you and your stories; Bart is a vampire, beer kills brain cells. Now lets go back to that... building thingy... where our beds and T.V.... is".
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Originally posted by Gelassenheit:
"I don't think of myself as a lion. You might as well, though. I have a mighty roar."
"It's a cow."
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Originally posted by Mattie:
But really, can you imagine how frustrating it would be to work for someone that totally, completely and entirely rejected your genius?
Dude. That's my every day!!
Haha! It's mine, too. That's why I'm looking for a new job!
Wacky fun!
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Originally posted by Dinky:
This is why I don't watch TV.
Me either--a mind is a terrible thing to waste, after all--with one deeply compelling exception: "Battlestar Galactica," which airs on SciFi.
It's not as funny as FF--boy, is that an understatement!--and its characters are complicated and so not so easily likeable; but Time Magazine was right to call it the best show on TV. It blows every predecessor TV scifi program out of the water, including the politically sophisticated but clumsily produced "Babylon 5" and even ST:TNG at its best.
Season one is out on DVD, as is the first half of season two--or you can download 'em via iTunes (or, for free, via bittorrent).
It's the high point of my week, every week, without fail.
"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle. . . ."NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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Originally posted by Brandon:
FOX will continue to be successful with its cratastic programming. The American people as a whole are morons and sheep. Individual people are usually quite intelligent. The advertisers keep buying ads because stupid people actually see the Wal-mart commercial and go "holy crap I need to go to Wal-mart."
Reality shows are not much different than the stuff that used to be popular like Jerry Springer, Jenny Jones and all that crap. People like watching stupid people be stupid around other stupid people. Networks like FOX have figured this out just like McDonalds figured out that if they make a mascot more popular than Jesus they will sell billions of cheeseburgers.
I've figured out that people look at science fiction fans as weird and strange. Of course we are strange to them. The majority of American television viewers think and act similiar to each other and then here we come and want TV that makes us think, with characters we can actually admire and love. I think time can change this and people can change especially if people are shown how much better some shows are. FOX is going to make millions with this network and what are we Firefly fans going to have to show for it? Nothing...
I figure the best chance we have of anything is getting our show on a cable network that doesn't have 20 million people watching there most popular show. There just isn't enough of us to convince a station like WB or FOX to give us an hour of their programming for a show that makes a small profit and only attracts a few million viewers when they can fill that slot with another remake of Survivor and attrack 15 million people and jack up the advertising rates and make ten times as much money.
I realize I went on a rant and have no real idea what I have said or if it makes sense, but I don't care. Just felt like saying it.
Ok this is my time to rant. First of all, I'm proud to be an American, perhaps blindly so. So it irks me when someone describes Americans in particular as you have. Americans aren't any dumber or group-think oriented than any other nation. The world is full of ignorant people. When I was in Germany, a freind told his neighbor I was American. She respond "aber er is nicht schwarz!" ("But he is not black!").
The corallary is that the world is full of smart and ingenious people. Most people are smarter than average in some way. Most people have a specific talent that elevates them.
In my experiance, a lot of people tend to think ignorance and stupidity are uniquely the recent generations. Just isn't so. Our stupidity is calling political opponents pigs or from the dark ages or malicious. Back when people's stupidity involved burning many River Tam's for witchcraft.
That's the extreme, take the common. Most people several hundred years ago were specialists. Blacksmiths, cotton weavers, farmers, tailors, barbers. As today, people have a limited capacity. Today, we tend to broaden peoples teachings, making people decent at everything. Back then, you'd work as apprentice and be really good at one thing.
I'm ignorant. Your ignorant. We all have our prejudices and our biases. It is arrogant and condescending to place yourself above others. It's also arrogant to call yourself above group thought and justify it by placing yourself in a smaller group, the "sci-fi you want a show to make you think" group. (This is the first and last time I will make any personal reference to your character. I'm not sorry if it offends you, it should)
Item #2, addressed to Dinky.
I don't think Babylon 5 was poory produced, until the third season. The first two seasons, especially the climax at the season 1 finale, were brilliant. Just my opinion.
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Originally posted by Dinky:
Oh Monk was cool too!! It wasn't cancelled was it??
I am a big fan of Monk, too. Thankfully, it has not been cancelled, and there will be a new episode on USA an Fri, March 3, about 10:00. If you like reading (not enough young'ns do these days with their internets and hip-hop 8-tracks)There is a monk book out now (whitch I just read and enjoyed) and its quite an easy read. There are more coming soon.
Aside from Monk I only watch the daily show, colbert report, and House (I watch the reruns on USA, not on Fox
) I hope Fox doesn't cancel that, too.-Stay Shiny
"The people who made the show, and the people who saw the show, which is roughly the same number of people, fell in love with it, a little bit too much to let it go, too much to lay down arms when when the battle looked pretty much lost. In Hollywood, people like that are called unrealistic, quixotic, obsessive... In my world, they're called Browncoats."
-Joss Whedon
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Item #2, addressed to Dinky.
I don't think Babylon 5 was poory produced, until the third season. The first two seasons, especially the climax at the season 1 finale, were brilliant. Just my opinion.
/Shrug. I dunno about Babylon. I never bother with watching Sci-fi's usually. I blame this on Star Trek... I just think it's really really boooring. I bore easily when it comes to film and such. Err atleast when something is made like Star Trek.
I have to have some sort of fighting!! Or just something that grips me (like Firefly's use of characters) and makes me want to watch, makes me curious. I just can't watch shows like Star Trek (not saying babylon is, it's just that's what I thought whenever I heard of it).
The same goes for most other Sci-fi's, though like most non-Sci-fi dorks I like Star Wars.
Another show I don't like is FarScape (I'm not sure how to spell it). But just like a half an hour ago I was watching Stargate in the other room... That seems like it is (or was) pretty neat :D.
By the way, I would dump Star Wars any day for Firefly.
Oh and I stopped watchin Fox based on the poorly done OTHER shows. Not exactly Babylon... I'd only heard of that, I never saw it (nor was I interested in it). But every other Fox show freaging sucks... The Simpsons was awesome but now it's just boring.
"Th3re !s n0 spo0Ne." -The Matricks
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Was B5 Fox produced?
I'm too young to have seen it when it first came out. Last two and a half seasons are painful to watch. If you like Serenity/Firefly, you should give the first two seasons of B5 a good shot. Characters seem really dull for the first couple of episodes compared to Firefly, but they do build up. The multi-threaded plots that continue from episode to episode are really good, and the season 1 finale rocked my world just as much as any Firefly episode (though not on the same gut-wretching level as some of the really good scenese in Firefly (Out of Gas,Safe)
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Originally posted by ThePistonEngine:
Item #2, addressed to Dinky.
I don't think Babylon 5 was poory produced, until the third season. The first two seasons, especially the climax at the season 1 finale, were brilliant. Just my opinion.
/Shrug. I dunno about Babylon. I never bother with watching Sci-fi's usually. I blame this on Star Trek... I just think it's really really boooring. I bore easily when it comes to film and such. Err atleast when something is made like Star Trek.
I have to have some sort of fighting!! Or just something that grips me (like Firefly's use of characters) and makes me want to watch, makes me curious. I just can't watch shows like Star Trek (not saying babylon is, it's just that's what I thought whenever I heard of it).
The same goes for most other Sci-fi's, though like most non-Sci-fi dorks I like Star Wars.
Another show I don't like is FarScape (I'm not sure how to spell it). But just like a half an hour ago I was watching Stargate in the other room... That seems like it is (or was) pretty neat :D.
By the way, I would dump Star Wars any day for Firefly.
Oh and I stopped watchin Fox based on the poorly done OTHER shows. Not exactly Babylon... I'd only heard of that, I never saw it (nor was I interested in it). But every other Fox show freaging sucks... The Simpsons was awesome but now it's just boring.
"Th3re !s n0 spo0Ne." -The Matricks
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No, B5 was a WB production first aired on UPN.
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No, actually, it was a PTEN production that was marketed to independent stations as a syndicated property. It had no network affiliation until the fifth season, when it was sold to TNT...and sucked.
- T
:)
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