The Crew Never Wins

POSTED BY: christhecynic
UPDATED: Saturday, February 25, 2006 19:41
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CHRISTHECYNIC

Saturday, February 25, 2006 1:43 AM

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Originally posted by Leebo:
If Mal had killed Niska in the torture room, he would have broken his own credo.

You're get to be awake, armed, and facing him before he shoots you dead.

Remember when he shot the Alliance pilot in Serenity when the guy was awake, unarmed, and surrendering?

Not saying the guy didn't deserve it, but Mal broke his own thingy.

RISEAGAIN

Saturday, February 25, 2006 1:56 AM

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Originally posted by Leebo:
If Mal had killed Niska in the torture room, he would have broken his own credo.

You're get to be awake, armed, and facing him before he shoots you dead.
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Remember when he shot the Alliance pilot in Serenity when the guy was awake, unarmed, and surrendering?

Not saying the guy didn't deserve it, but Mal broke his own thingy.

There is only one Mal rule.

In the future there will be puppies and somehow Mal will have to kill them. Per Joss.

"It always had your name on it, I was just carrying it for you."

DAVESHAYNE

Saturday, February 25, 2006 2:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Leebo:
If Mal had killed Niska in the torture room, he would have broken his own credo.

You're get to be awake, armed, and facing him before he shoots you dead.

I don't think that aplies to Niska. Simon, a person who Mal has taken under his protection will have the benefit of that code but someone who was never in Mal's crew - who had been torturing him and his pilot and who had actually already killed him once that day - can be killed out of hand. Anyway even if Mal does subscribe to the fighting chance for everybody credo I think he is more than in the mood to break a few rules at the skyplex.

David

"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon

RISEAGAIN

Saturday, February 25, 2006 2:06 AM

Lets not forget Crow.

"The last thing you will see is my blade!"
"Darn." Mal pushes Crow into engine.

CYBERSNARK

Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:31 PM

Awake: conscious and aware of one's surroundings. True for Niska, Crow, the Haven pilot, and the Operative (in Inara's chamber, when Mal shot him).

Facing [Mal]: aware of Mal's presence, and able to avoid/flee/fight. Again, technically true for Niska, Crow, the Haven pilot, and the Operative.

Armed: literally, presenting a threat to Mal and/or his family. Niska (had tortured Wash [despite Wash only being an employee], tortured Mal, killed Mal, and had revived Mal with the explicit intention of torturing him some more), Crow (had just threatened Mal [and his crew, by implication]), the Haven pilot (arguably responsible for the deaths of the Haven citizens and Book [who is, as Mal notes, part of the crew in absentia], a member of a group with whom Mal was, at that moment, at war, and who would probably kill again if given those orders), and the Operative (despite his words, his presence was a threat to River, who is also part of the crew, and even to the crew as a whole by implication) all qualify.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

SIGMANUNKI

Saturday, February 25, 2006 7:41 PM

Um, why does winning have to mean that they kill there enemies?

I'd say that the win all the time. They just don't do it very well.

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

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