The Crew Never Wins
POSTED BY: christhecynic
UPDATED: Saturday, February 25, 2006 19:41
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Just something I've noticed:
Episodes:
Serenity:
Enemy 1 Badger: Gets his way
Enemy 2 Patience: Gets her goods
Enemy 3 Reavers: Live to rape and kill other people
The Train Job
Enemy 1 Niska: Still very much alive and pissed off
Bushwhacked
Enemy 1 Reavers: Don't show up
Victim 1 colonist: Had to be killed
Enemy 2 Alliance: Alive and well
Shindig
Enemy 1 Atherton: Humiliated but more powerful than the crew dares to dream
Enemy 2 Badger: back on the same side
Safe
Enemy 1 Hill people: Alive, well and ready to set others on fire
Our Mrs. Reynolds
Enemy 1 Yo-Saf-Brig: Knocked out
Enemy 2 Guys in the net: Very much dead, finally a win
Jayne's town
Enemy 1 Guy in charge: Alive and well, if angry with his son
Enemy 2 That guy: Well he's dead, but he took a muder with him.
Out of Gas
Enemy 1 Other Crew: Alive and completely unharmed
Enemy 2 Flashback bad guys: Unknown, probably alive but harmed.
Ariel
Enemy 1 Alliance: Not even seriously irked
Enemy 2 Jayne: well he's Jayne
War Stories
Enemy 1 Niska: Lives.
Trash
Enemy 1 Yo-Saf-Brig: Left for the cops
The Message
Enemy 1 Cops: Alive and well
Heart of Gold
They actually won, but Nandi died
Objects in Space
Enemy 1 Early: Left adrift.
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Movies:
Serenity
Enemy 1 Alliance: Weakened but still ruling the system with an iron fist
Enemy 2 Reavers: Still alive, which means they will still spread terror and pain
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Occasionally our crew does win, but most of the time a happy ending takes the form of, "We lived through it and no one is in pursuit at the moment." Slightly different from things like Star Trek where the crew goes around winning and such.
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Originally posted by christhecynic:
Occasionally our crew does win, but most of the time a happy ending takes the form of, "We lived through it and no one is in pursuit at the moment." Slightly different from things like Star Trek where the crew goes around winning and such.
Which is the point. Mal doesn't need to beat anybody, he just wants to go his own way. Still flying is wining for our crew.
David
"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon
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Niska needs to die. I thought Mal was going to when he was like "you wanna meet the real me now?" with that crazed look in his eye. Killer.
I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch me soar.
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Originally posted by daveshayne:
Which is the point. Mal doesn't need to beat anybody, he just wants to go his own way. Still flying is wining for our crew.
Which was my point, but I took the long way around in saying it.
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Originally posted by BlackCollarBrowncoat:
Niska needs to die. I thought Mal was going to when he was like "you wanna meet the real me now?" with that crazed look in his eye. Killer.
I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch me soar.
Unfortunately Mal didn't make sure the torturer was dead before turning on Niska and so suffered from a case of homicidis interuptis.
David
"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon
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Originally posted by christhecynic:Quote:
Originally posted by daveshayne:
Which is the point. Mal doesn't need to beat anybody, he just wants to go his own way. Still flying is wining for our crew.
Which was my point, but I took the long way around in saying it.
Sorry I got more of a "they never win" vibe than a "they have a different definition of wining" from what you said.
I'll just be sitting in the corner with my funny hat now.
David
"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon
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Originally posted by daveshayne:
Sorry I got more of a "they never win" vibe than a "they have a different definition of wining" from what you said.
That's because I didn't say it very well.
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One thing I noticed was that what makes this show so great is that the main characters don't always win. It helps me relate to them and it also makes me feel like the outcome of every episode is up for grabs. They do succeed a few times in the show but not enough for me to think they were always going to win and thereby loose my interest. The show has a shakespeare feel to me. That human feel that every life has a sad ending it's the journey to that end that makes it worth it.
"It always had your name on it, I was just carrying it for you."
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In Mrs. Henderson Presents, a movie that seems to be favored by the very old, the main character gives a speach that says, "No matter what people may say all deaths are in vain," or something very much like that.
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