Star Trek as a Firefly replacement.

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MYCROFTXXX

Friday, February 24, 2006 6:54 PM

My opinion? Star Trek is NOT a good replacement for Firefly by a long shot.

TNG was a nice reaquaintance with the Star Trek franchise but lacked any sort of story arch beyond the occassional encounters with the Borg (and even these were always wrapped up in two or three episodes). It was also so unreal (who sleeps in their uniforms afterall!)

DS9? Didn't like it. To many set pieces, a bit more story arc though. Also, too political. If I want politics I'll watch West Wing. The whole Klingon war thing barely kept the show going its full 7 years.

Voyager? TNG all over again but with a twist. Still obsessed with the Borg towards the end.

Enterprise? Loved it because it was much closer to reality, had more believable people and real relationships. However, a lot of the material was definitely formulaic and recycled which I didn't like. When they stuck to the idea of "here's why we had to form the United Federation of Planets and the Prime Directive" it was good. When they went "temporal" thud!

Right now, my solace in the face of Firefly's hiatus (I'll NEVER give up hope): the new Battlestar Galactica and reruns of Farscape

LWAVES

Friday, February 24, 2006 8:30 PM

I usually don't try to compare anything to Star Trek, especially Firefly.

The original series is great although dated now.
The next gen. was generally boring although it did have the borg. To sterile as someone said. Too many holodeck incidents. Too many Data tries to learn something and it goes wrong incidents.
DS9 was great. Darker in tone than the others.
Voyager was next gen in reverse. Same thing about the borg here.
Enterprise was fine if you hadn't seen next gen or voyager. If you had it pretty much just ripped those shows. Acting was better than next gen or voyager though.

Like the ship itself Firefly demands and defines it's own class. Pity be to those that never see it.

TH1RT3EN

Friday, February 24, 2006 10:26 PM

Hello, I'm new here, thought I would post in this topic because of some interesting comparisons between the two franchises. I wouldn't say that either series is a replacement or substitute for the other but there are interesting parallels.
--A different point of view...
The Star Trek universe generally comes from the individuals being part of a great, good whole - The Federation. A great and powerful "alliance" of systems and peoples accepting of their individual differences, yet unified in their "open" way of thinking. But what if you don't want to be part of their perpetually expansive way of thinking???
Firefly looks at the underbelly of the "Federation" or "Alliance" and doesn't see eye to eye with its "utopian" concepts. They don't want to be part of this group or "meddled with" hence they are the outcast.
The original Trek dealt with these concepts a little better than the later generations as there was a more frontier to explore metaphorically speaking.
In any case, both series share the unique privelege of being resurrected from cancelled TV series to something more, by devoted fans who identify with what the the respective series had to say.
Sorry if that ranted off a bit...

A little suffering is good for the soul...

FAKESOUNDOFPROGRESS

Friday, February 24, 2006 10:57 PM

Having grown up in a household with one Star Trek obsessed parent I have come to terms with the idea that I'm going to find it irritatingly compelling for the rest of my life (No matter how much I deny it). Seriously, I think its inherited. Star Trek and Firefly represent two sides of a continum though. Star Trek represents one extreme of always triumph over adversity, everyone (to some extent) helping each other out. Firefly represents the other extreme of totalitarianism where everything is done for everyones good whether they like it or not. And admittedly the Star Trek franchise has gotten tired over the years. Firefly is something fresh to Science Fiction which the genre as a whole despearately needs unless they plan on turning some more Issac Asimov books into films. Personally though Firefly is my fave followed by Stargate then Star Trek and its various offshoots.

The moment of the Rose and the moment of the Yew Tree are of equal duration.

SERENYTY

Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:00 AM

I'm not a trekkie. It just never appealed to me. But I DID like the fourth movie; the only one I saw. Save the whales!

I've just gotten hooked onto The X-Files. That's completely opposite to Firefly on the sci-fi spectrum, but I like it.

I still want more Serenity, though.

~A message from Serenyty~

RYANW2050

Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:54 AM

Quote:

Which one? The ship's counselor or the ship's doctor ?

Not the doctor, she's ok..

And yeah, i'm watching TNG since it's airing on G4.

VETERAN

Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:23 AM

[qoute]I think enjoying both series depends on which Trek you watch. ....I still wish that Enterprise had been run by someone as talented, creative, and passionate as Joss. It had so much potential, but Berman and Braga pissed it away with their damned cookie-cutter, formulaic crap.

Damn right. And they had no respect for the GD timeline.

KIZYR

Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:28 AM

Oh I still very much enjoy isolated episodes of TNG or DS9 (especially after the Dominion Wars begin). Agreed, while things are quite sterile, and it deals with stuff that are generally too far removed from regular society (how can you relate to the troubles of transporting an ambassador from planet to planet? Or first contact with an alien species?) it was still rather interesting.

But, yeah, it never roped me in the same way Firefly did. Star Trek, I had to grow up on. Firefly took five minutes. KF

~KF

Lord, I'm walking your way. Let me in, for my feet are sore, my clothes are ragged.
Look in my eyes, Lord, and my sins will play out on them as on a screen. Read them all.
Forgive what you can and send me on my path. I will walk on until you bid me rest.
~Haven Prayer

AGIRLYMAN

Saturday, February 25, 2006 11:28 AM

I tried to watch "Enterprise" but after a couple of episodes I gave up on it. A yr later I some repeats, it was pretty good, but for the most part they just rehashed earlier star trek plots. Entertaining, but nothing creative or new.

AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!?!?!?

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CBY

Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:35 PM

You simply can't compare Star Trek and Firefly - two completely different franchises, each with it's own strenghts and weaknesses - and Firefly has it's weaknesses as well

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