Fox launching new network.

POSTED BY: erico
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 19:42
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ZEEK

Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:49 PM

The problem with the internet download model is that you'd almost have to have the first 6 episodes be free. Cause people would "cancel" shows faster than FOX if it's their own money they're shelling out to see each episode.

Also, any successful show, like Lost, would have 10 clones pop up the second it became popular. This would over saturate that genre and the shows would all die out. Then the next big thing would hit and repeat.

SICKDUDE

Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by Gelassenheit:
Maybe I am an alien...

Maybe you are a lion?!?

"It's a cow."

DAVESHAYNE

Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:10 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
Also, any successful show, like Lost, would have 10 clones pop up the second it became popular. This would over saturate that genre and the shows would all die out. Then the next big thing would hit and repeat.

And this is different from broadcast media how?

David

"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon

RUXTON

Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:27 PM

Lister,
I like your idea for future TV, and agree something like that must come along, and soon, too. I, for one, NEVER watch any commercials; yet the folks who give us TV base a show's "success" on the potential buyers it draws to watch the advertising. A well-watched show lets the TV producers sell more advertising, and thus the show stays on the air. How can they be so stupid? Many friends have told me they are growing more fed up with all the commercials, which basically screw up the storytelling, so they also do not watch any ads. I watch a few good shows for the escapement, not to find out which car or deodorant to buy.

Dinky, MATLOCK! My mother loved that show into her 80s. She also never missed Alex Trebeck's and Pat Sajack's (sp?) game shows. But you're 16?? Please see your doctor!

Personally, I'd rather read a good book than watch most of today's TV.

KWICKO

Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:52 PM

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You know the old saying, "Nobody ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence of the american people." H. L. Mencken*
*Actually about half the cites I can find for that quote substitute the word taste for intelligence and I find the quote (both versions) atributed to both Mencken and P. T. Barnum. You be the judge.

Yeah, it's Mencken. It was his response to the debut of Reader's Digest magazine. Seems appropriate in this context, given Fox's and Digest's appeals to the lowest common denominator.

Their "original" shows with titles like "Secrets" and "Desire" just remind me of Spike and his favorite soap opera, "Passions". Which, oddly enough, SciFi channel is now running on a daily basis. :)

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

BULLET1510

Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Fox (more specificly Newscorp) own a major movie studio (20th Century Fox) a top broadcast network(FOX), one of the top cable channels(FX), a powerfull news channel (FauxNews)

If that's the case, then all the 'good' shows are on the FX channel anyway (apart from 24) - now days it seems if you want quality TV you need to be seen to pay for it. Firefly II and Arrested Development would sit nicely amongst The Shield and Rescue Me etc, etc - bring over 24 and leave FOX to its 'When mother-in-laws attack 2' and 'World's stupidist President' (FOX's would win hands down) crap.

Is FX expensive to subscribe to? I live outside the US, and we get masses of quality US and UK programming on broadcast TV - uncensored :) Which brings up another point, if FF wasn't on the main FOX channel the 'suits' may be more amenable to leaving Joss alone in peace to get on creating his masterpiece,(not that Joss would go within 10 feet of FOX now).

GELASSENHEIT

Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by Sickdude:
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Originally posted by Gelassenheit:
Maybe I am an alien...

Maybe you are a lion?!?

"I don't think of myself as a lion. You might as well, though. I have a mighty roar."

Gelassenheit means Serenity

KAYNA

Friday, February 24, 2006 2:23 AM

I once heard someone say that if you were to make a network made up entirely of shows canceled by FOX in the first three seasons, It would be the most awesome network ever.

BRANDON

Friday, February 24, 2006 2:31 AM

FOX will continue to be successful with its cratastic programming. The American people as a whole are morons and sheep. Individual people are usually quite intelligent. The advertisers keep buying ads because stupid people actually see the Wal-mart commercial and go "holy crap I need to go to Wal-mart."

Reality shows are not much different than the stuff that used to be popular like Jerry Springer, Jenny Jones and all that crap. People like watching stupid people be stupid around other stupid people. Networks like FOX have figured this out just like McDonalds figured out that if they make a mascot more popular than Jesus they will sell billions of cheeseburgers.

I've figured out that people look at science fiction fans as weird and strange. Of course we are strange to them. The majority of American television viewers think and act similiar to each other and then here we come and want TV that makes us think, with characters we can actually admire and love. I think time can change this and people can change especially if people are shown how much better some shows are. FOX is going to make millions with this network and what are we Firefly fans going to have to show for it? Nothing...

I figure the best chance we have of anything is getting our show on a cable network that doesn't have 20 million people watching there most popular show. There just isn't enough of us to convince a station like WB or FOX to give us an hour of their programming for a show that makes a small profit and only attracts a few million viewers when they can fill that slot with another remake of Survivor and attrack 15 million people and jack up the advertising rates and make ten times as much money.

I realize I went on a rant and have no real idea what I have said or if it makes sense, but I don't care. Just felt like saying it.

STORYMARK

Friday, February 24, 2006 4:19 PM

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Originally posted by bullet1510:

Is FX expensive to subscribe to? I live outside the US, and we get masses of quality US and UK programming on broadcast TV - uncensored :) Which brings up another point, if FF wasn't on the main FOX channel the 'suits' may be more amenable to leaving Joss alone in peace to get on creating his masterpiece,(not that Joss would go within 10 feet of FOX now).

No. FX is comes with most basic cable packages in the US. It is not, however, available on the Dish Network satellite system (at least in my area). Not sure if it's on Direct TV (the other satellite provider).

It would be great if FX was showing Firefly. Between The Shield, Rescue Me, and 24 (they often show the reruns after the first run on FOX), and Firefly Redux, FX would easily be my favorite network on TV.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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