Andreas Katsulas (G'Kar) 1946-2006

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BISHOP76

Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:44 PM

How so? Please, comment away. I await more of your wisdom.

CBY

Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:54 PM

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Originally posted by Bishop76:
How so? Please, comment away. I await more of your wisdom.

Luckily the poor children don't entertain you before they step on landmines so you can save all your compassion for actors.

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BISHOP76

Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:59 PM

You know, I *DO* in fact know that bad things happen in the world (as I believe I previously pointed out). If I had all the time in the world to mourn for every death that happened in the world I would. I think everyone would.

Instead, we mourn for those that we knew, that which we were familiar with.

Do you think that I'm sitting here in my room wailing and pounding the walls because Mr. Katsulas died? Not so much. I (and a few others) just posted a "too bad" message on an internet message board. This somehow makes us bad people apparently.

Do you go to funerals and tell the bereaved that they have no right to mourn the loss of their loved one because so many children die all the time? Now I'm not trying to liken Mr. Katsulas to a loved one, but it's the same principle. By your rationale, we'd never mourn anyone because so many people die.

Your point is ridiculous, sir.

CBY

Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:09 PM

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Originally posted by Bishop76:
By your rationale, we'd never mourn anyone because so many people die.

That's beneath the point. You said, this guy is worth more to you than a dying child because he entertained you. All I did was questioning that logic.

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BISHOP76

Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:29 PM

I would like to point out that the part of your original post mentioning the children wasn't in there when I first responded - that was edited in there after I had responded. Nice editing job.

What I said in that last message was not "beneath" the point. The point was that you have to pick and choose who you mourn over or you'll be mourning every second of every day for the rest of your life because PEOPLE DIE ALL THE TIME.

That said, I stand by my point - he was something I was familiar with, something I enjoyed so I will mourn his passing more than I would mourn any complete stranger. Doesn't matter if it was a 90 year old man who had a great life or a 3 year old child who lives in 3rd world squalor.

I can sit here and wail about the injustices in the world all I want to and how we should be sad every second for every child who dies, but like the rest of the world, I'm not.

You're making a completely ridiculous point, here.

CAPERCAILLIE

Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:51 PM

I remember someone once remarking on a B5 site that they could sit in a room and listen to Andreas Katsulas and Peter Jurasik read the telephone book to one another.

A remarkably talented man - rest in peace

CHRISTHECYNIC

Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:48 PM

When a child I had never met in another state got hit by the mirror of a truck legally traveling the speed limit in a place with no sidewalk she got my recognition and mourning when I found out that her brains littered the roadway and I was angry because only died because her town was too lazy to move a bus stop they knew would one day be deadly.

On that same day former President of the US Reagan died, and he got more recognition. Why is that, do you think?

Certainly he was no more worthy as a person than that girl, so why did so many people think he deserved their recognition in place of the masses they have never met or heard of?

It's because Reagan touched peoples lives, whether it was good or bad is a matter of opinion, that girl didn't touch many lives, she didn't have the chance. As such while she was just as worthy as a person she was not worthy of PERSONAL recognition from as many people as the president because she did not touch as many people.

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This man has touched many people, as such he deserves the recognition of those people, he also deserves the recognition of all sci-fi fans, TV fans, or people who simply appreciate good acting for his contributions to the things that those people care about.

If you want to say that the thousands who are dying deserve my personal recognition then show me what they have done to me personally.

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Recognition is not the same as caring, when people die I care, no matter what, but if they are to receive personal recognition from anyone they must somehow personally effect that person.

I wish I didn't care about people, I wish that when thousands of people I don't know died (as they do every day) it was as if thousands of people who I don't know either went on living or had never existed at all. I wish it didn't weigh on me. But just because I care doesn’t mean I have any obligation to give any one of them any more recognition than any other one of them.

When someone has had an effect on me I have an obligation to that person. And just because you might want to ignore your obligations doesn't mean I will ignore mine. When someone who has touched me (be he, she or it a family member, a friend, an acquaintance, a pet, a leader, an actor, or even an enemy) dies I have an obligation to recognize whatever that person has done for me, and part of that recognition is making sure everyone who should know what happened does know.

REYNOLDSFAN34

Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:44 PM

I was a huge Babylon 5 fan and I met him and he was wonderful, I loved G'Kar and he deserves all the attention anyone could get. He should have had an Emmy award among his belongings, and oh please, it is a shame about all the children dying, but that is up to the world leaders, who are basically jerks, to do something about it. As for me, I am in great mourning, and nothing can change that. B5 was to me, the finest show ever on the air and G'Kar it's most amazing character, and I have loved many alien characters in my time,, Spock, George Francisco of Alien Nation and others,, and man, G'Kar was first among all of them. He was wonderful, and so was the guy who played him.

I stand between the candle and the star.

CHRONICLURKER

Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:

Recognition is not the same as caring, when people die I care, no matter what, but if they are to receive personal recognition from anyone they must somehow personally effect that person.

CHRISTHECYNCI, thank you for your wonderful response to that interchange above. Very well-said!

And I certainly want to say 'Thank You' to Mr. Katsulas for his incredible work. I loved Babylon 5 - it was one of those great shows that could make you think, laugh and cry, somtimes all within the same scene. And the character of G'Kar played so passionately by Andreas, did so on many occasions.

CLJOHNSTON108

Friday, February 24, 2006 3:10 AM

For those like CBY, who are wondering why we're paying so much attention to this one actor, and who've never seen or heard of Babylon 5, it might help to listen to some of the audio clips on the sites I've listed below.
(The writing of J. Michael Straczynski might've also had a little something to do with it. )

Down Below Sound Archive for Babylon 5
http://b5.cs.uwyo.edu/bab5/
(Search by Name: G'Kar)

This one's my favorite...
http://b5.cs.uwyo.edu/bab5/snds/ab-talon.zip

Babylonsounds.com - The Babylon 5 music archive
http://www.babylonsounds.com/en/index.html

And my favorites from that site...
http://www.babylonsounds.com/media/staffel3/narn_god.mp3
http://www.babylonsounds.com/media/staffel3/zhadum.mp3

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