Fox launching new network.

POSTED BY: erico
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 19:42
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SAMAFIN

Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:50 PM

Maybe we're going about this the wrong way.

We need to have them start a Firefly Recruitment Reality show.

Twelve contestants, show clips from the shows, and the one who recruits the most new Browncoats wins...

what could we have for the prize?

OOOOOooooh...another season?

Nah...it'd never work.

Sami

Signature? We don't need no stinkin' signature!

CHRISPV

Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:20 PM

Wow, nothing like repackaging other network's shows and then throwing even more reality TV at us (and not even "original" reality TV at that).

Actually, this isn't the most annoying thing they've put up. My folks have a satellite system, and, believe it or not, they're actually launching the Fox Reality Channel. I kid thee not, it's literally all reality shows all the time. They've apparently acquired the rights to stuff like Survivor and will do nothing but show this bilge.

I wish Fox would go ahead and cancel the Simpson, then I'd have no temptation to watch anymore at all. Cartoon Network can hook me up with Family Guy and American Dad.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

GRIMJACK21502

Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:48 PM

FOX...yeah I'm talking to you...I, GrimJack, do hereby solemnly swear to take back everything negative I have ever said about you (except for the time I referred to you as heartless Nazi stormtropers who would have cancelled Sesame Street because it didn't have enough sex)...

...IF you put Firefly back on the air and give it a chance...a real chance Murdock.

...do not fail a second time or you will find Browncoats marching on your doorstep.

We will hold...we hold till Mal gets back.

"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young

LISTER

Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:05 PM

We are not far away from a serious change in network programming. Someday most shows will be downloadable in a subscription format, meaning that the audience will have the final say as to how a show is deemed successful. If I was Joss I would go to Universal, or as a last resort, FOX, to foot the bill for a trial run of say, 6 episodes that would be available online only for a price of say, $2.99/episode, or $15.00 for all 6.

I can think of a handful of reasons why this wouldn't work right now, not the least of which is piracy. Also, I don't know what percentage of the Firefly audience would a) pay for a show when all others are free and b) have enough computer savvy to know that the shows are available and then be able to download and watch them.

That's why this change is still at least a few years out, but it may take a show with a rabid following like Firefly to be the guinea pig. I'd pay for it and most people here would, but that's probably not enough to make it feasable.

But can you imagine how much money the really successful shows could make with this model? And if a show like Firefly was very successful then more money could be put into the show for sets and fx work, and it could keep getting better and better and making more and more money, like a snowball rolling downhill!

One would think that in this life
Where no two snowflakes are alike
One would have a brilliant rhyme
For each and every bit of time.

- The Yeti, CLUTCH

DRACOS

Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:20 PM

AAAAAAHHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHHH! AAAAAAAGHHHHHHHH! Oh, dear God in heaven.

Honestly, since when is Fox the "World's Most Powerful Media Company"? I would peg that title on Sony to be sure.

And Christ, what is with those titles? "Secrets?" "Desire?" That goes beyond catering to morons and puts them right up on a friggin' pedistal.

"Dont ask me silly questions.
I wont play silly games."

TVCHICK

Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:59 PM

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Originally posted by Mattie:
But really, can you imagine how frustrating it would be to work for someone that totally, completely and entirely rejected your genius?

Dude. That's my every day!!

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When you can't run, you crawl.
And when you can't do that...
You find someone to carry you.

DIGGER

Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:02 PM

Hi,

New member here, but longtime fan of Firefly. In fact I just recently hooked my girlfriend on it. Took her to Serenity, which she loved, and then gave her my box set, which she won’t return.

With regards to the question of the future of Firefly that Lister was alluding to, I think it is ON DEMAND that is the future of TV. People won’t have to know how to download an episode. They’d just use the On Demand function on their Digital Cable to order it. In fact, that experiment may already be underway. On my cable recently, one of the On Demand features was Serenity and/or individual episodes of Firefly. Could this be a precursor to whoever owns the right experimenting with new episodes of the show in an On-Demand fashion? The DVD’s of both the movie and the show are top-sellers. Someone might see a correlation between that and the opportunity to get the same people who would buy the DVD’s to pay for new content as it is made. IIRC, the show had something like 5 Million average viewers in the US when it was cancelled. If only 15%, or 750,000 of them paid an average of $2.49 for each new episode (either $1.99 with commercials or $2.99 without) that alone would translate to $1.867,500 per episode. And the producer would also be able to charge some fee for the advertising too. That could easily bring it to over $2 Million. Would that be enough to revive the show? Maybe not, but they could also add revenue streams by licensing the show out to similar services worldwide, and then selling the DVD’s. That may double the income, to around $4 Million per episode. That number just may be enough to make it worthwhile.

Digger

Hope is a good thing.
Maybe the best of things.
And no good thing ever dies.

DAVESHAYNE

Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dracos:
And Christ, what is with those titles? "Secrets?" "Desire?" That goes beyond catering to morons and puts them right up on a friggin' pedistal.

You know the old saying, "Nobody ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence of the american people." H. L. Mencken*

*Actually about half the cites I can find for that quote substitute the word taste for intelligence and I find the quote (both versions) atributed to both Mencken and P. T. Barnum. You be the judge.

David

"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon

SADLITTLEKING

Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ChrisPV:
Actually, this isn't the most annoying thing they've put up. My folks have a satellite system, and, believe it or not, they're actually launching the Fox Reality Channel. I kid thee not, it's literally all reality shows all the time. They've apparently acquired the rights to stuff like Survivor and will do nothing but show this bilge.

I actually watched the Fox Reality Channel once. They were showing Celebrity Boxing. What I got out of it were the questions, "How did I ever watch this crap? And like it?" Honest, I think I've come a long way in the last so many years.

Anyway, there was something in this article that I think deserves comment:

"Twentieth Television's new hour-long scripted dramas Desire and Secrets will inaugurate My Network TV. Structured in a 65-episode story arc stripped Monday through Friday for 13 weeks"

Any bets on how many of those 65 planned episodes actually get made? And aired?

STORYMARK

Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dracos:

Honestly, since when is Fox the "World's Most Powerful Media Company"? I would peg that title on Sony to be sure.

Fox (more specificly Newscorp) own a major movie studio (20th Century Fox) a top broadcast network(FOX), one of the top cable channels(FX), a powerfull news channel (FauxNews), and a few dozen affilate stations across the country (which is part of the rationelle behind this new network, as several were WB or UPN affiliates, but won't be picking up CW). I believe they also own some newspapers and radio stations, but I could be wrong.

Sony is primarily an electronics company, and in that field I would say they are on top, but they are not really a "media" company. The only real Media outlet they own is Columbia/Tristar Studios, and the sub-division Sony Classics. They do not own any TV stations, either broadcast or cable/satellite.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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