Shepard - Former Operative?

POSTED BY: mirak
UPDATED: Monday, February 20, 2006 20:35
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20THCENTFOXHATER

Monday, February 20, 2006 2:48 AM

I'm not too sure if you've heard the stuff from Whedon or not, but Joss has said that he had no real say over the novel. Because if he did, he would just end up writing it himself!

I think Keith R.A. DeCandido said it in one of the Firefly Talk podcasts when they had his interview on. Not 100% sure though.

The novel was obviously good and whatnot, but don't consider it Firefly canon.

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"Can't do something smart, do something right".

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ISAACSHEPHERD

Monday, February 20, 2006 3:42 AM

I'm not sure what else Book could be besides either an Operative or formerly connected with Alliance. On reguard to someone's previous statement on Jubal stating that Book isn't a Shepard I have another theory on that.
I think that Jubal may be a failed or outdated experiement. Perhaps an experiment before River. In Objects in Space, Simon asks Jubal if he's Alliance, and Jubal's return comment seemed odd, like something River could have said. Another part was when Simon was going to attack Early but he already knew without looking, I'm guessing possibly psychic abilities, along with identifying Book not being a Shepherd.
Yeah it is a bit off subject but I don't think Shepherd would have met Jubal before, although it may be possible that he was a bounty hunter. I would see Book as more of an Operative though. I don't think the Alliance would immediately operate on someone (as they did in Safe) on an old bounty hunter. He must have had some very high up connections before or during the Unification War.
IS

DAVESHAYNE

Monday, February 20, 2006 5:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by IsaacShepherd:
Another part was when Simon was going to attack Early but he already knew without looking, I'm guessing possibly psychic abilities....

I'm not going to argue with your main points (as they do seem to be plausible) but I feel it important to note that if you are standing near a railing overlooking a 30 foot drop and there is a person behind you who has an interest in causing you to fall it doesn't require psychic abilities to surmise they might try to push you off.

David

"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon

SULTEN

Monday, February 20, 2006 6:00 AM

I don't think that Book was an operative or a bounty hunter. I think that he was either some sort of general or Alliance Parlament member. (perhaps a "KEY MEMBER") I didnt think that his fighting abilities were at operative level, despite his age, seemed more like well trained military is all. I think if he was high ranking military it would explain alot of his knowlege, about regulations, weapons, ships and being calm when hits the fan. I don't know if Book was anywhere near Serenity Valley, but he does seem to have a mild dislike for the Alliance for some reason. I do not accept any evidence from the book because Joss had very little to do with it, if any. As to Jubal Early saying Book wasnt a Sheppard. I dont know why he may have said that. I dont think jubal is any sort of physcic, just attentive, other wise he prolly would have seen Mal comming ontop of the ship. perhaps Jubal could see sometimg in Books eyes that betrayed his past.

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JBAILEY612

Monday, February 20, 2006 6:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by IsaacShepherd:
I'm not sure what else Book could be besides either an Operative or formerly connected with Alliance. On reguard to someone's previous statement on Jubal stating that Book isn't a Shepard I have another theory on that.
I think that Jubal may be a failed or outdated experiement. Perhaps an experiment before River. In Objects in Space, Simon asks Jubal if he's Alliance, and Jubal's return comment seemed odd, like something River could have said. Another part was when Simon was going to attack Early but he already knew without looking, I'm guessing possibly psychic abilities, along with identifying Book not being a Shepherd.
Yeah it is a bit off subject but I don't think Shepherd would have met Jubal before, although it may be possible that he was a bounty hunter. I would see Book as more of an Operative though. I don't think the Alliance would immediately operate on someone (as they did in Safe) on an old bounty hunter. He must have had some very high up connections before or during the Unification War.
IS

JBAILEY612

Monday, February 20, 2006 6:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by IsaacShepherd:
I'm not sure what else Book could be besides either an Operative or formerly connected with Alliance. On reguard to someone's previous statement on Jubal stating that Book isn't a Shepard I have another theory on that.
I think that Jubal may be a failed or outdated experiement. Perhaps an experiment before River. In Objects in Space, Simon asks Jubal if he's Alliance, and Jubal's return comment seemed odd, like something River could have said. Another part was when Simon was going to attack Early but he already knew without looking, I'm guessing possibly psychic abilities, along with identifying Book not being a Shepherd.
Yeah it is a bit off subject but I don't think Shepherd would have met Jubal before, although it may be possible that he was a bounty hunter. I would see Book as more of an Operative though. I don't think the Alliance would immediately operate on someone (as they did in Safe) on an old bounty hunter. He must have had some very high up connections before or during the Unification War.
IS

JBAILEY612

Monday, February 20, 2006 6:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by IsaacShepherd:
I'm not sure what else Book could be besides either an Operative or formerly connected with Alliance. On reguard to someone's previous statement on Jubal stating that Book isn't a Shepard I have another theory on that.
I think that Jubal may be a failed or outdated experiement. Perhaps an experiment before River. In Objects in Space, Simon asks Jubal if he's Alliance, and Jubal's return comment seemed odd, like something River could have said. Another part was when Simon was going to attack Early but he already knew without looking, I'm guessing possibly psychic abilities, along with identifying Book not being a Shepherd.
Yeah it is a bit off subject but I don't think Shepherd would have met Jubal before, although it may be possible that he was a bounty hunter. I would see Book as more of an Operative though. I don't think the Alliance would immediately operate on someone (as they did in Safe) on an old bounty hunter. He must have had some very high up connections before or during the Unification War.
IS

My only comment on the back story of Book:

Could Book have a "fake-id" Ident Card?

And the most puzzling clue to Book is in Out of Gas. When facing a certain death, Book is on the verge of a breakdown while skimming the good book. If Book was an Operative, I conjure that he would face death a mite different.

MIRAK

Monday, February 20, 2006 3:37 PM

I think it is interesting how similar Early and the Operative are. Their fighting “style” is identical, they’re both sadists, and they both like to wax poetic. The only difference I can see is that Early only has his bounty hunter “code” whereas the Operative Believes.

Perhaps this difference is all that keeps Early as an independent contractor, while the Operative is more an Alliance employee.

Also, I know this isn’t PC, but you can’t overlook the fact that Early, the Op, and Shepherd are all black. Why is it that the only three black characters of any significance seem to have so much in common? Perhaps they are even loosely related? I’m not talking about second cousins – maybe they all come from some secret and exclusive warrior society.

DAVESHAYNE

Monday, February 20, 2006 3:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mirak:
Also, I know this isn’t PC, but you can’t overlook the fact that Early, the Op, and Shepherd are all black. Why is it that the only three black characters of any significance

*cough cough* Zoe *cough cough*

David

"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon

GRIZWALD

Monday, February 20, 2006 3:52 PM

I guess we'll all find out for sure with the next movie (hopehopehope) - maybe there will be a new character, played by a greying Chiwetel Ejiofor, named Shepherd Fountainpen or something like that.

(Gina Torres is Cuban American. Not sure what Zoe's background is meant to be, other than beautiful and powerful.)

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