Cheney has terrible accident.

POSTED BY: Hero
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 23:57
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HARDWARE

Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:49 PM

What did Cheney do wrong, $7 stamp aside? He violated one of Cooper's 4 rules; Be certain of your target and what lays beyond. Regardless of Whittington breaking hunting party protocol, Cheney was still wrong. The 4 rules exist to protect everyone's safety and they are never broken.

With an overnight lag in his talking to the police there's no real way to say how many beers Mr. Cheney may have had at lunch or afterward.

The decision to allow the ranch owner to break the news to a podunk paper just smacks of "hope nobody notices". Not saying that it is, just saying it stinks like soft peddling. If that was his actual chain of thought he is a bigger boob than I took him for.

Thank heavens he's not president. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

SERGEANTX

Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:07 PM

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Originally posted by Hardware:
What did Cheney do wrong, $7 stamp aside?...

You want this to turn into one of the 150 post threads, don't you?

SergeantX

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Saturday, February 18, 2006 5:51 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
Now that authorities and everyone (who isn't a Bush-hater liberal or 'Crazy Talkin' Pirate) agrees that this was an accident, perhaps we can put the 'Cheney goes on Rampage' Thread away.

This whole thing stopped being news days ago. Now it’s just the Leftwingers in the media et al. throwing fits. Al Gore committed what might be considered sedition, but the media didn’t have much to say on that matter. They’d rather focus on a largely innocuous hunting accident.

Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, February 18, 2006 6:21 PM

I think that I'm going to object to this thread. I've thought about it, it stuck me as quirky and pointless, but now I see the point.

But now I get Hero's game. He wants to create a republican thread, and thus eliminate the democrats. I think this is a bad idea, because it takes the republicans out of the other, majority debate, by luring them to post here instead.

There should be one debate. A debate with democrats and republicans in it. If you happen to not post a story first, then that is the price you have to pay, that someone else got to name the thread. It's not a big deal. I think more people will stay away from really offensive thread titles like "Bush Sr. Boy Sex." but "Cheney Goes on a Rampage" is not particularly abrasive, objectively. It's more like on the level with "Centuries old statue of Buddha blown up in Afghanistan; Fundamentalist Buddhists go on violent rampage!"

Here are some other more political thread titles

"Funny Cartoon sparks Islamic Jihad!" I thought this one was a little far gone, but I posted on it anyway.

"Bush hands security of America over to group with possible Al Qaeda connections" This one was mine, but I thought it was basically factual.

"Bush Admistration hurts students with cuts to financial aid and other programs" This was someone else's, but also basically factual. "Bush want to hurt students" might have been political. I don't actually think opposing Bush is a political point of view, it doesn't seem to be a partisan issue.

"Pentagon: Secret Report on Climate - Bush lied again" This one was fine until the end.

"Au revoir, Paul Martin!" This one was fair, but there's a political implication.

"Get your very own Bush at the PMS home shopping channel" I don't want to know.

"My Theory On Why Bush wants to Ruin Social Security" This is a political point of view I totally disagree with. I think social security is a farce, and it needs to be privatized. I would support Bush in this effort if I thought he gave a damn about it. I'm not at all convinced he does. I think that saying he does is part of Bush's standing up every once in a while and saying "I'm a Republican" because if he didn't, people might realize that he's really a Democrat.

To be precise, he's Clinton.

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, February 18, 2006 6:28 PM

Finn,

Cheney's accident is a character reference. If you are a conservative, than these things should matter. I suspect you just want to defend the administration. I have no idea why. I don't see where the left gains from an attack on Cheney. Cheney's approval rating going into this was already under 25%, thus completely and utterly killing the idea of him having a 2008 presidential run. The only danger now is that it will be so low that Cheney will be forced to resign. Since Cheney is probably as far left as a republican VP is likely to be, it stands only to benefit the right to see Cheney replaced by, what is guaranteed to be, another republican.

SIGNYM

Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:13 PM

There was almost certainly alcohol involved, and I conclude that because the hospital, doctor, victim, vice President, press spokesman, and sheriff have all gone terribly out of their NOT way to state otherwise or to provide definitve proof either way. Was Whittington tested for alcohol in the hospital? Most likely. Did Cheney fix himself a highball at dinner to explain alcohol in his blood, should he be tested? Possibly. Did the Secret Sevice keep the sheriffs away for 12+ hours before allowing access to the veep? Absolutely. But in absence of solid evidence- which was not collected as it would be in most shooting accidents- there is no proof. So Cheney gets off clean, legally, but in my book he's just a weasely little shit who cleans up the mess before dad comes home.

I'm more concerned about what Cheney said during that so-called interview as relating to "outing" a CIA offcier. A VP can declassify anything he wants to, whenever he wants to? Sheesh!

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KHYRON

Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:17 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I think more people will stay away from really offensive thread titles like "Bush Sr. Boy Sex." but "Cheney Goes on a Rampage" is not particularly abrasive, objectively.

Had I known that this shooting incident would be such a big deal, I would've posted a different thread title. Or maybe not started the thread at all.

I thought the situtation, while very unfortunate for Whittington and I guess also for Cheney, was basically humorous, and so I posted what was intended to be a humorous thread, with a joke title and joke comment, expecting this whole situtation to be blown over by Wednesday and the thread to meet an early demise. I guess I didn't factor in that the media might have nothing else to report on and would turn this incident into a frenzy, and I didn't factor in that the mere mention of the name 'Cheney' would evoke a rabid response from some people on here, regardless of what he did.

I couldn't believe it when I saw some news networks debating over whether Cheney should resign over this. Now, I realise I said "Enough to kick him out of office, right!?", or something to that effect, but that was part of the humorous-thread angle I was working with. I think the notion of him leaving office because of this is ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as supporting the impeachment of a man for lying about having oral sex performed on him, then defending another man that started an illegal and unpopular war under false pretenses.

I don't like Cheney, but the media should leave this incident alone already and investigate some of the true crimes he committed while in office.

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:38 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Cheney's accident is a character reference. If you are a conservative, than these things should matter. I suspect you just want to defend the administration. I have no idea why. I don't see where the left gains from an attack on Cheney. Cheney's approval rating going into this was already under 25%, thus completely and utterly killing the idea of him having a 2008 presidential run. The only danger now is that it will be so low that Cheney will be forced to resign. Since Cheney is probably as far left as a republican VP is likely to be, it stands only to benefit the right to see Cheney replaced by, what is guaranteed to be, another republican.

The attacks against Cheney are not very rational; that I’ll grant you

Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

CITIZEN

Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:58 PM

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Originally posted by DreamTrove:
"Get your very own Bush at the PMS home shopping channel" I don't want to know.

Mine, and it was a joke

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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DREAMTROVE

Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:40 PM

Khyron,

I disagree. I think that people should be kicked out of office for minor offenses. I think that this was an unlevel-headed almost certainly drunken Cheney with a shotgun, the incident clearly happened on friday... there are just so many things. I think people who lie, or 'misspeak' should resign. I think people who are simply wrong should resign.

President and Vice president are nominal leadership roles, that's all they were ever intended to be. People elected republicans, and the republicans should rule until the people elect democrats. But it was a party ticket that they voted for, not a personal one. Anyone that congress feels in appropriate should be able to hold that post. This isn't exactly news, it's been done before. Any one of numerous bad calls like Abu Ghraib, should have had Bush and Cheney out on their asses.

Hell, I'm going to go out on a limb and say 9/11 should have had Bush and Cheney out on their asses. The failure of leadership alone, taking aside for the moment the actual possible involvement, was an indication of lack of leadership. Hastert should have become president pending an investigation on 9/11/01. At least by the end of the year. Cheney should be not only forced to resign over the hunting incident alone, but arrested, and sentenced to a rehabilitation program, as would happen to him if he were anyone else.

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