Everybodies so mad . . .

POSTED BY: Hera
UPDATED: Friday, February 17, 2006 21:18
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HERA

Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:11 PM

Thank you for the info/warning, Glueman. I'll stick my toe in there someday, just so I can grok how good we have it here. Perspective is a good thing to have.

Rumours of mean-spirited folk on message boards were what warned me off the internet until recently (well, aside from FF being the only big passion that I wanted to involve myself in). Something about complete anonymity breeding complete intolerance, or some such. When I came upon FFF.net, I was impressed by the supportive tone and, well, the fact that everyone talks about what I want to talk about, which is FF.

I'm a countin' my blessings here. Thanks you'se guys!

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

SIGMANUNKI

Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:32 PM

Well, my frequenting has been a lot less frequent as of late, mainly due to RL badness.

But, from what I've seen, the anger usually is generated from the movie. Everyone was really geared up to see it and some of us were disappointed (to varying degrees) and others happy (to varying degrees) about it.

Now everyone wants to convince people that they are right. That there is/isn't inconsistencies in the movie or whatever, and no-one is backing down (or listening to eachother for that matter).

I've even been considering at least taking an extended leave from the site because of it; I've gotten sick fighting (this site is supposed to be my relaxing). Then again, this could just be my RL badness talking, which is why I haven't left just yet; I waiting to see.

But, to answer your question, IMO, it's a combination of new people, human nature and disagreements about the movie.

But, it has become more serious than this. When the movie came out and I participated in a number of discussions regarding it vs the series. I thought that this could result in a schism in the FF community. And that has begun:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/showblog.asp?b=3190
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I'm sticking with the fans that are grateful for what they get.
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Or conversly, if you aren't grateful and happy about the movie, I'm not with you; piss off.

Something is going to have to happen soon to stop this ludicrous behaviour. Otherwise, there will be far more than just one or two leaving.

And Haze, bringing this to peoples attention is of course, the first right step. Now maybe we have a chance to stop the madness. Time will tell.

ps I use the movie vs series debate above not to enter (or start) a debate about it. It is just where I think that the problem started.

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

HERA

Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:58 PM

Thanks, Sigmanunki. Sometimes I am happy that I saw the movie first, took it on it's own merits. I didn't have high expectations to be dashed. I walked out of the theatre, looked up at the stars and thought "wow". I was transported.

Last time that happened, I was 15. I saw "Star Wars" the week after it opened.

It's nice to feel that way again. It's also nice to find the 'verse in the series. I love it just as strongly, but differently.

I know without a doubt that the movie would have elicited VERY strong emotions in me if I had been with the series from the get go. I have a friend who is a huge FF fan who has yet to see it, for that very reason.

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

CHRISPV

Friday, February 17, 2006 2:30 AM

Well, I'm pretty new myself, but I for one greatly enjoy the friendly atmo around here. Heck, I won a caption contest on my first try, and I'd only been a Browncoat for a week or two! I don't post often, for one because I like to limit it to when I have something to say, and two because I tend to devote most of my Firefly time to writing up my fanfics (Begin shameless plug-Check them out! They're good! Really!-End of shameless plug).

The bottom line here is that I don't think any of us are "pathetic" to the point where we've lost sense of reality. We enjoy the show, we get together to talk about it, but it isn't like we'll all commit mass suicide if it isn't renewed in some form. We got us some darn fine stories out of the 'verse already, and I'm happy to have them. We're going to get more, definitely books and comics, hopefully big/small screen stuff shortly as well. But, in the meantime, we just have to hold out and enjoy what we've got, which in this case is 15 odd hours of excellent filmed entertainment, the aforementioned books and comics, and each other.

That's not much, but it's enough.

And incidentally, I for one thought the film flowed into the series very, very well. I loved it, and a fellow Browncoat declared it "The best film I've seen this year." And keep in mind, he's a tech-geek who sees a LOT of films. I also declared it the best film of the year, and I see even MORE films.

Take that, Mannequin Skywalker.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

JONESRA

Friday, February 17, 2006 3:15 AM

I'm new here myself, but just some thoughts...

I've seen alot of news about rumors, and alot of posts about "Come on people, get off your butts and get this series back on the air again" and honestly, I think for all you guys who have been here from the beginning, it has to be frustrating to have waited so long for the movie and get the influx of new people who are all fire about getting more (that run on sentence was due to the rising prices of punctuation and my poor schooling).

You guys have my deepest sympathy, and my hat's off to you for everything you've done to get us newbies hooked. THANK YOU ALL!!!!
I've been on a few forums, and for the vast majority of people here, everyone is fantastic and treats each other with respect.

My second though on the matter is that the anger stems from global warming, global cooling, and the dukes of hazzard.

CHRISPV

Friday, February 17, 2006 3:20 AM

Now now, let's not be bringing John Schneider and Tom Wopat into this.

On the other hand, if you're referring to Johnny Knoxville and Seann William Scott, then I agree. They are the cause for all of the evil in the world.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

SINGATE

Friday, February 17, 2006 9:16 AM

I tend to think some people's anger stems from their losing faith in future verse related projects. Remember that those who believe the hardest tend to fall the furthest. Once someone reaches that breaking point they go looking for answers. If those answers are lacking they will then lash out at the ones who attempted to help. To make matters worse our continuing faith stokes that anger because we have not reached the same, obvious(to them) conclusion.

I don't think we should dismiss these folks as trolls since they didn't all come here looking for a fight.

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We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.

SERYN

Friday, February 17, 2006 9:49 AM

I'm not sure about the other one, but if your referring to the girl who declared she was leaving (and then came back) - That had nothing whatsoever to do with the movie, or Firefly, or the 'verse in general.

What it had to do with was far too much white wine and Drunk-txt'rs-syndrome.

The problem is that you can't tell the tone with which someone is typing - sarcasm, jokiness or complete seriousnes, so people (and I admit I did it myself -bad me! slap wristies) react, and its only if they had the good grace to say 'sorry, I was wrong' that the situation is resolved.

In general argument is human nature, it not a bad thing. Nothing new was ever done on the face of this planet by people who all agreed with each other. And when people have an opinion, a belief, they fight to defend it. We are all here through a love of a group of people who faught a war over their opinions. Who lead a criminal lifestyle because they still have those beliefs, and a captain who, by the way, engineers situations where he can 'tussle' over those opinions.

Its lamentable that the 'family tone' has been lost, not knowing what that tone was, I can't comment, but change is also inevitable, and good, and maintaining the 'family' is where your friends come in (by which I mean the guys you have found on this board who you Identify with and have come to like and trust)

There is alway going to negative crap flying around, wherever you go whatever you do, but focusing on the good and pretending like hell that the bad don't exist when it don't suit you is what makes it worth it.

which I think was my argument in that other thread...

CITIZEN

Friday, February 17, 2006 10:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
BTW, if anyone's referring to the Real World Events Discussion board in particular, that corner of FFF has always been a hotbed of contention and sharp debate, some of us Browncoats like a good ruckus, and go in knowing it's gonna be rough, heh heh.

But is is, on occasion, hilarious Chrisisall

The thing people have to remember about the RWED is that it is the Moderates and Buddhists that are the problem...

Preaching forgivness and tolerance and such...

What we need is a good old fashioned heathen burning.

Going over to the dark side, CitizenIsDarth.

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ADAMWANKENOBI

Friday, February 17, 2006 10:31 AM

This seems to happen eventually with all fan beses. At first, everyone gets along fairly well, then it gets ugly...

If you visit a Star Wars messageboard you'll see what I mean. Ugh. The SW fanbase has turned into one of the most sour group of people I've ever talked to. There are countless arguments everyday on any given SW board. Let's hope the FF fanbase doesn't stoop to that level.

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