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Cheney goes on a rampage!!

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PIRATENEWS

Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:50 AM

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Originally posted by Geezer:

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Originally posted by piratenews:

TeeVee said that 70 hunters shoot and kill each other every year in Texas, usually when drunk.

Funny, Texas says 29 accidents with 4 fatalities in 2004 and 30 and 2 in 2005.

www.tpwd.state.tx.us/newsmedia/releases/?req=20050314c
www.tpwd.state.tx.us/newsmedia/releases/?req=20060213c

the 2004 release states:"The primary reason for Texas hunting accidents remains swinging on game outside a safe zone of fire. This happens when a person points a firearm at another hunter while following a moving target, such as a flying game bird."

Are you implying that talking heads on TeeVee would intentionally misquote facts and statistics on alcohol and guns, in order to achieve a premeditated agenda?

Over 500 illegal aliens were murdered along the Mexican border last year, but I guess they don't count those as "hunting accidents". I wonder if Dick has ever hunted illegal aliens in his Most Dangerous Game?

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"If you don't mind me, I will kill you. I could kill you -- Kill you -- with my bare hands. You're not the first and you won't be the last. I'll kill you any time I goddamn well please."
-Dick Cheney, TRANCE Formation of America, as testified under oath in courts of law

"This is another sign of your tragic space dimentia - all paranoid and crotchety."
-Mal

PIRATENEWS

Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:40 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Team Pirate,

Let's say there's a man, let's call him Icke, who has an agenda, to spread the word of Christ. He will then find fallacies about anyone else, flaws in any official story, and post them.

In particular, Pirate News, I think you, who I have some respect for, because you really know a lot of stuff, have picked up, and I would call these clay pigeons, or possibly lawyers, I'm not always sure:

1. UFOs. Not much of this comes through, but the only UFOs around are military aircraft.

2. Christianity. You aren't on the Icke slant, but you don't attack Christ as viciously as you should. Church conspiracies have been some of the most vile in history, and continue to be so.

3. Jews. An awful lot of people in these conspiracies are not jewish, and when they are, or remotely so, their jewishness is totally irrelevent to their involvement. The closest thing to the truth here is that our zionism is connected to the fact that Wolfowitz and Perle are jewish. While there may be something in this, Zionism is just being used to achieve a greater end here.

I agree that so-called "UFOs" are merely govt covert ops, using Nazi Project Paperclip and Tesla technologies, with at least a 20-year head start in engineering evolution. A fake alien invasion from outer space, not to mention daily "Hollywood" mind control, is a "real" threat. Just last week, Fox news claimed Bush saved Los Angeles from an invasion by terrorists from outer space.
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/111

USAF Flying Saucers on VIDEO:
http://piratenews.org/hollywood.html
http://ufoetry.com

That's a great thing about Firefly - no aliens, just firearms, horses and folding lounge chairs.

David Icke is a New Ager who hates "Christianity", who claims that Christ never existed, but is merely a Roman invention to control the ignorant masses. Can't blame him for hating "Christianity", since the Church of England was invented by a serial killing psychopath named King Henry VIII who murdered his wives then invented divorce by inventing a new religion. Icke is a former talking head for BBC TV, so there's a chance he's actually still employed by MI5/MI6 as a disinfo specialist. Icke also admits to enjoying hallucinogenic drugs to "expand his consciousness", which is basically selling mind-control drugs for the Bush/Queen Crime Families. Icke talks about "shape-shifting reptiles" named George Bush and Prince Charles, but Cathy O'Brien, in her newest book, makes clear that Icke is misquoting the MKULTRA slaves, who describe CIA slavemasters wearing cheap disguises, using holograms, and force-feeding LSD to slaves, to fake the reptile/alien invasion. If Icke continues to misquote Cathy O'Brien, that will prove that Icke is a disinfo agent, which attempts to automatically discredit the other 99% of "his" info that's 100% accurate.

The homosexual pedophile Catholic religion is Satanic and evil, and is one of the main inventors of mind-control technologies, which have been used on priests and especially nuns, who are mere sex slaves, tortured to death in dungeon Death Camps called "convents". The Jesuits are an intelligence agency of torturers and drug runners for the Vatican NATION, with the Pope as its KING. To worship in the Catholic "religion" is to worship the Pope as God, which is blasphemy. The Vatican Bank is run by the Mafia and their "Jewish" masters, who don't hesitate to kill a pope who asks too many questions. The Inquisition certainly tortured and murdered millions, and many popes were nothing more than incestuous Jewish gangsters. Jewish Rabbi "Jesus Christ" was NOT a member of the Catholic Church. Fascinating history tho. Cathy O'Brien was raped by her pedophile Catholic Jesuit priest in a Satanic ceremony called The Rite to Remain Silent, as part of CIA's MKULTRA Project Monarch brainwashing, as were her brothers and sisters, under direct oroders of Congressman/President "Gerald Ford" (who was born Leslie Lynch King Jr).

But Jewish Rabbi "Jesus" Christ is NOT t

STORYMARK

Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:32 AM

So, uh, Pirate...

I get the impression you have a problem with Jews.

Don't know why I think that. Just a hunch...

Thanks, though. You're always good for a chuckle.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

PIRATENEWS

Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:46 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

So, uh, Pirate...

I get the impression you have a problem with Jews.

Don't know why I think that. Just a hunch...

Do you know what a "Jew" is? Do you know that most "Jews" are NOT Semites? Do you know that "Jews" are the most hateful anti-Semites on the planet, according to every dictionary?

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Semite.
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and ARABS - b : a descendant of these peoples - 2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language.
—Merriam Webster Dictionary

Some of my richest relatives are White "Jews", including some who were invited guests at Bohemian Grove. I'm not overly impressed with the honesty or ethics of my relatives. Most of my wealthy "Christian" relatives also worship Lucifer in the Masonic Mafia, including Masonic ceremonies in "Christian" churches. My wife was raised Catholic and attended Catholic school for 12 years. She's not impressed with the Catholic religion, especially after her priest went to jail for embezzelement and heterosexual sex.

Do you understand that it is possible for some "Jews" to be criminals, gangsters, traitors and Luciferians? Or do you believe that "Jews" have a genetic defect that makes it impossible to be dishonest?

Are you "Jewish"? If so, are you Khazar or Sephardic? Are you supporting the "Jewish" banksters overthrow of USA and genocide of the world?

I'm just an equal-opportunity whistleblower who gives credit where its due.

WWW.JEWSCHOOL.COM

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"Eyal Zusman (30), actor and writer, and Amitai Sandy (29), graphic artist and publisher of Dimona Comix Publishing, both from Tel-Aviv, Israel, have followed the unfolding of the 'Muhammad cartoon-gate' events in amazement, until finally Zusman came up with the right answer to all this insanity - and so they announced today the launch of a new anti-Semitic cartoons contest - this time drawn by Jews themselves! 'We'll show the world we can do the best, sharpest, most offensive Jew hating cartoons ever published!' said Zusman, and Sandy added: 'No Iranian will beat us on our home turf!' The deadline is Sunday March 5, and the best works will be displayed in an Exhibition in Tel-Aviv, Israel."
www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6662
www.boomka.org

"The government is spending over a billion dollars per year on PR and advertising (bribes). Careful oversight of this spending is essential given the track record of the Bush Administration, which has used taxpayer dollars to fund covert propaganda within the United States."
-Jewish Congressman Henry Waxman, RAW STORY, "Bush Admin. spent over $1.6 Billion on advertising and P.R. since 2003, GAO finds," February 13, 2006
www.rawstory.com/news/2005/Bush_Admin._spent_over_1.6_Billion_0213.htm
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Can you imagine working at the following company? It has a little over 500 employees with the following statistics:

29 have been accused of spousal abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad checks
117 have bankrupted at least two businesses
3 have been arrested for assault
71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 are current defendants in lawsuits
In 1998 alone:
217 traffic violations
Over 100 were stopped for drunk driving
3,000 unpaid parking tickets were issued

Can you guess which organization this is? Give up? Scroll down for the answer...

It's the 535 members of your United States Congress. The same group that perpetually cranks out hundreds upon hundreds of new laws designed to keep the rest of us in line. By claiming "Constitutional immunity" our political overseers avoid criminal prosecution for all traffic crimes. These are only statistics for Washington DC, Virginia and Maryland police files, and do not reflect traffic crimes committed i

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PIRATENEWS

Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:32 AM

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Well, apparently there was some alcohol there. Armstrong herself said "There may be a beer or two in there, but remember not everyone in the party was shooting." Since she wasn't shooting (she was in ther car and didn't see what happened, AND she wasn't drinking, the logical conclusion is that other members of the pary were both shooting AND drinking.

Or, they each had a beer with their sandwich for lunch, and were quite sober by late in the day. Or, they had some in the cooler to celebrate a successful day of shooting after they finished and unloaded.

I also race cars (Hey, Kwicko! NASA Honda Challenge in a CRX Si ITA clone), and often have beer in my cooler at the track. It comes out at the end of the last session when the track is closed and everyone is talking about the events of the day. On my couple of forays in the hunting field, this is also when the beer came out...after the stuff requiring sobriety was over.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

I made a lot of money selling Hondas. Too bad they're not American. Too bad Detroit's not allowed by NWO to manufacture "double-wishbone" suspension, except for $50,000 cars. Civic HX and Del Sol were my favorites - rock solid in 4-wheel-drifts on test drives with customers.

Ah, the good old days, when I wasn't a decrepit old geezer, when I was a drinking-and-driving-and-street-racin teenager outrunnin the cops like the Dukes of Hazard. When 18-year-old adults were actually allowed to drink alcohol like adults. When cops ask why your gang is pukin and pissin on the side of the road, you just hand the cop a cold beer and send him on his merry way. When a 105mph traffic stop for racin down a mountain was cured by laughing at the cop and saying "What tha hell are YOU doing way out here?" When bracket racin with a beer cooler, then crusin the drive-in for burn outs on the way home.

Then I grew up, loaded nukes for the Air Force on supersonic bombers, and raced semipro in British Formula 3 on TV. I guess I owe it all to alcohol. But I never got drunk and shot a Republican lawyer's head off... yet.

Note that drinking and driving is NOT illegal in any state. Nor is having an "open container" for passengers. But prosecutors and copsters don't care about The Law.

In Tennessee, it's illegal to hunt from a vehicle. Unsportsmanlike, or something. I don't hunt anymore, so I don't keep up with gun laws, except for self defense against 2-legged critters.

Funny that Armstrong confessed to alcohol, which confirms the crime. NOW EVEN CHENEY CONFESSED ON TV TO DRINKING ALCOHOL IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THE SHOOTING, AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SHOOTING, WHICH IS PROBABLE CAUSE TO ARREST HIM IMMEDIATELY! An average citizen would have been crucified by Big Brother in that situation.

"'I am the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend,' Cheney told Fox News in an interview broadcast Wednesday evening. 'That is something I will never forget. It's not Harry's fault. You can't blame anybody else. I said, 'Harry, I had no idea you were there,' Cheney recounted. 'He didn't respond.' The handling of the situation also raised questions about whether Cheney had been drinking at the time of the shooting, about 5:50 p.m. Cheney told Fox he had had a beer at lunch, but the hunt did not begin until 'sometime after 3 p.m.' Armstrong, a longtime friend of the Cheney family, told CNN before the vice president's interview that she never saw Cheney or Whittington 'Drink at all on the day of the shooting until after the accident occurred, when the vice president fixed himself a cocktail back at the house.'" (PROBABLE CAUSE FOR ARREST!)
-CNN, "Cheney: 'One of the worst days of my life'
Vice president defends handling of hunting accident"
www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/15/cheney/index.html

"Later in the day on Fox News, Brit Hume stated that Cheney told him during a taped interview that he had had 'a beer at lunch' before the hunting incident." (PROBABLE CAUSE FOR ARREST!)
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DREAMTROVE

Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:53 PM

Lol with the dead-eye dick.

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"Christ" died trying to reform the Jewish religion.

Isn't it all cult of Yhwh anyway? I mean, Jesus, he came with ideas of reform to save the day, I'll grant, but the patient was already dead. The problem, to me, with all western religion, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, is that it all stems from a radical monotheist splinter cult which worshipped "War" in exclusion to all else.

Yhwh was God of war before the split, and so "God" is really "God of War." This does explain why they have been so successful, these religions created their followings by conquering people and enforcing their faith.

The Israelites did it in biblical times, something genocidally so, and they still do it today.

Christians did it throughout roman times, the middle ages, and the missionary periods, and now, even if it is in name only, are doing it right now.

Muslims created almost their entire faith base by conversions by the sword, and continue a policy of "kill the non-muslims" which is a great encouragement to anyone who lives in an area that might be raided by Al Qaeda types at any time to declare themselves at least nominally muslims, just as Europeans had to be at least nominally Chirstian during the inquisition, or the Nazi era.

And to deflect this pre-emptively, God was not 'El' the rain god in spite of the mention in the Greek of El for God.

I hammered this out some time ago with some biblical scholars and I am certain of the conclusion. The development went like so:

Yhwh was the one who could not be named. His priests, after the monotheistic split carried the legend that speaking his name gave you power over him, and thus made him not your God, and so was not to be done. But this magical idea had a real world basis: Speaking the name of Yhwh or Yehavehah, was not a linguistic spell, except in that it labeled God as not the one and only, but on a parallel with other Gods who had names, Moloch, Baal, et al.

Since Yhwh, the Golden Lion, born of the fire of Mount Sinai, was God of War, knowing his stance in the pantheon would force the issue, and allow the followers to make a choice. If they did not love war, they might choose otherwise, and this was something the cult of Yhwh desperately wanted to stop. So they transformed the cult into the cult of he who can not be named.

At this point in the biblical text, the name 'Yhwh' disappears, but the entity in question is still quite obviously Yhwh.

The derivation of 'El' is also an interesting one. El literaly means 'The High One' and was a reference to the fact that El was God of Rain, and the Heavens. But over time, the idea got distorted in Palestine, where El became the most important deity.

It's classic pantheon evolution to have the Rain God ascend to the highest position while the land is turning into desert. Typically Fire Gods and Sun Gods become devils when this happens, and the base psychological reasons are obvious. But what happened as a result might not be:

After El became used in a different sense, to mean 'The High One' as in 'Top Dog of Gods in the order of the Pantheon' it began to be used colloquially by his followers, as a word. The word 'El' as an generic term for a god entered the palestinian language centuries at least before Yhwh is ever referred to that way in the text. Meanwhile, the name of the original El was mutated to Elohim and various other things as he was merged with one or two other Gods in the pagan pantheon. This wasn't a melding into one, but from 30 odd down to ten or twelve. When 'El' appears in the bible, it is as 'My El' for some time, meaning, literally, 'My God' which is 'He who cannot be named' or 'Yhwh, God of War.'

Though occasionally he is called 'El' as a word, just as we use 'God,' even Christ calls him 'My El.' 'God' for those who don't know means a man or woman of Godia, a small village in Scandanavia from which came Thor, Odin, Freya and others.

HERO

Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:51 PM

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Originally posted by piratenews:

If Cheney pleads guilty to a crime, either "negligent discharge of a firearm", "aggrevated assault", "involuntary manslaughter" or "criminally negligent homicide", then you can BET that Bush Jr will PARDON Cheney,

I hesitate to reply because 95% of your ranting is just "crazy talk" (a legal term that means 'insane ramblings by a drooling fool whose head is encased in tin foil').

Never the less, you raise an actual issue there at the end, PARDONS (although you are dead wrong on your conclusion). I know something about pardons having written a law review article on them after the Clinton pardon of Mark Rich in 2000. For the record, if Cheney is charged with a serious crime, although that is unlikely unless the victim dies and even then the crime, Neglegent Homicide, while a felony is both a first offense and the lowest felony possible (meaning probation at worst)...anyway if he is charged and is convicted or pleads guilty, President Bush CAN NOT pardon him. The President's pardon power extends only to Federal crimes. Negligent homicide in this case is a Texas crime and Cheney could only seek pardon through the Texas system, which greatly limits the Governor's power to issue them (its one of the most limited executive pardon powers of all the states).

You cited Iran-Contra or something, Nixon is a better example. Nixon was exempted from involvement in Federal crimes (for which he was never charged, but probably would have been) resulting from the Watergate burglery. At best he was an accessory after the fact and/or obstructed justice, both normally local issues, except that in that instance they occurred in Washington D.C. which does not have soveriegnty like the states do and is within Federal jurisdiction, thus within the President's pardon power.

So that leaves your post with 95% "crazy talk" and 5% "bad information". Thanks for playing.

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HERO

Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:01 PM

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So I'm curious. The legal pundits were eager to parse Texas law re hunting accidents. HERO - what does the law say if alcohol is involved? Perhaps you could look it up and give us the benefit of your expertise.

I don't practice in Texas, but alchohol in principal is used to show intent. If the standard is "rechlessly", as it is in Negligent Homicide (the only charge Cheney might face, since he got a warning on the $7 hunting stamp) then I would use evidence of alchohol to show that combining hunting with drinking is reckless disregard for obvious dangers involved.

In this case Cheney admits to have a beer at lunch. This means nothing. Everybody charged with crime who had been drinking says "a beer" or "two beers" regardless of how many they really had. The number cited can't be proven so I disregard it and just call at "an admission of drinking". I note with DUI's an accident and oder of alchohol is probable cause to arrest (without any other factors like Field Sovriety Tests or breath test or such).

So while Cheney's admission hurts his defense, given the statements by Cheney and the victim he is still in no danger of being charged.

Watched him on FOX last night, found him compelling. I would not charge unless new facts come to light or the victim dies.

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HERO

Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:29 PM

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Originally posted by piratenews:

So you're one of those scumbag "prosecutors" for the COMMUNIST Police State Death Camp Gulag Scam. For you to call yourself a "Hero" simply shows your own insanity. You aren't a "prosecutor", you're a pussy.

Tell you what...come commit a crime in my jurisdiction. I'll send you to County Jail for thirty days or so and then we'll know which of us is really the "pussy".

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IWHY DON'T YOU PROSECUTE 30-MILLION CRIMINAL ALIEN TERRORISTS IN USA TODAY, FOR THE CRIMES OF CRIMINAL TRESPASS, FRAUD, THEFT, ROBBERY, RAPE, DRUG DEALING AND MURDER?!

I'll get right on that. Right after I start prosecuting people for "crazy talk". I'll need your name and address, thanks.

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Crooked prosecutors NEVER drop FALSE charges against INNOCENT people, since the innocent people would then have civil cause of action to sue Gangsta Govt, AND to criminally prosecute copsters for false arrest and false imprisonment.

Show me an innocent man...oh, and we are immune from both civil and criminal liability for this sort of thing (its good to be the King...er...Democratically elected government).

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Media Mafia and prosecutors brainwash the sheeple that "juriy nullification" and "runaway juries" are a bad thing, in contradiction with America's Founding Fathers and Constitutions.

Are you a "Freeman". Had a great "Freeman" case last year. Guy was charged with Driving without a valid Ohio license (his dad was the real instigator of this, cause the defendant was too stupid to put two sentences together). I convicted him. They were REALLY wacky. Fun case, that was.

Anyway, I'll give them the same advise I'll give you. Don't rely on the internet for your legal information (unless its Westlaw or such). There's just too much 'crazy talk' out there (you know what I mean...)

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Alcohol is a STIMULANT and ANTI-depressant that IMPROVES driving performance, contrary to lies from Media Mafia and Gangsta Govt.

Wow. "IMPROVES" you say. If by improve you mean substantially increase the liklihood that the "Improved" driver will weave into oncoming traffic and head on a family of five on their way to church or swerve onto a sidewalk and kill a kid on a bicycle or perhaps swerve into a ditch flipping their truck and nearly killing themselves...then I guess your right. In all three examples the Defendants were taken to the hospital and found to have a blood alchohol level in excess of .20 and I helped send two them to jail and one to prison for 15 years.

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CITIZEN

Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:40 PM

Alcohol sure DEPRESSES the hell outta me...

Wow Hero, have you changed or have I?

Changing man, CitizenIs Paul Weller.

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