Funny Cartoon sparks Islamic Jihad !
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UPDATED: Wednesday, August 26, 2026 18:50
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Originally posted by Prey:
You can tie me up in fancy snares of words all day long, this is a basic point in all your stuttering around the fact to make yourself look intellegent is unneccesary.
This is very funny. Play the plain speaking valiant local fighting the good fight against the crazy city slickers card all you want, but just so you know it doesn't impress me and it doesn't really work either, I'm afraid those darn Hollywood movies lied.
All this sentence says to me is that you are unable to argue against what I said, so you must resort to playing games, because you could never admit you were wrong now could you.
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I say Kill people who want to kill us, You can say no, or agree, you dont have to quote history and go on a giant binge picking me apart.
No, this is just an attempt to simplify a very complex situation in an attempt to win a debate that you know you can't win. Pre-emptive action is not a good reason to start a war, if a nation attacks you, you attack them right back, that doesn't mean if a nation or people say I hate you, you have the right to go kill them.
If everyone went around pre-emptively attacking other nations the world would have been reduced to atomic slag long ago. The only justifiable reason for going to war is if you are attacked, thus there are no wars where all participants are justified in fighting.
Oh and it was far from a binge of picking you apart, it was just a little, and it wasn't hard at all, I put this down to the fact that all your doing is regurgitating political rhetoric and propaganda which you don't even really understand.
Good parrot.
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If you want to read between the lines with Iraq its pretty simple (Yes you brought it up), yes we did it to help ourselves mainly, but the goal to help ourselves will benefit all the world.
You said all we're doing is trying to help people, Iraq is a fairly big recent event where we supposedly tried to help people, so no and you brought it up. You brought it up by suggesting that no one in the Middle East has a right to be just a little bit angry at the Western world.
How arrogant of you though, what’s good for me is good for the world. Sounds like the pathology of you common garden dictator. Wake up; there are plenty of other people living in free societies who are glad not to be you. Did you learn nothing from Serenity?
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I belive that the stabalization of Iraq will slowly lead to the the stabalization of the entire middle east as people slowly see that its better to be free of the yoke of cruel governments.
Yeah the Middle East is waaay more stable now...
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Did you think we were going to destroy regiemes of evil and build new infastructure for free?? Our the lives of our men and woman defending our country so cheap that we can expect to gain nothing in our endavors?
WTF. WTF seriously. Your defending imperialism? What fucking planet are you living on?
Half the problems of the world are hangovers from European Imperialism so now that the US is building its own empire you suddenly think everything’s going to workout for the best?
If you really think any of that puts the war in Iraq in a good light there’s no point in continuing because our views on right and wrong are entirely different and incompatible. It sounds like you’re stuck in the European imperialist age:
It’s okay to invade someone else’s country, slaughter them and pillage their natural resources because in return we're civilising the savage.
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Would you go kill your friends husband who was beating her and ruining her life, and then build her a entire new house and expect nothing in return??
We blew up the house, not they, we. We have no right to expect to make out on this deal, this was blatant Imperialism and under the guise of pre-emptive action which is shaky enough as it is.
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I apologize for saying the german people, obviously I was referring to the Nazi's.
I suspected that, the reason I called
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Prey, have you ever tried explaining the concept of color to a blind person? It's frustrating, isn't it. You know exactly what it is, but no matter how hard you try, they're never going to get it.
Do you really think that anyone who can defend rioting, burning and infantile, tantrum-throwing behavior (over a cartoon) is ever going to understand that civilized people simply do not behave this way -- whatever the offense?
As someone else has already pointed out here, Jesus is blasphemed on an almost daily basis in our country by our own media and "entertainment" (I believe the example they sited was from "The Simpsons" -- and it happens all the time). Civilized people (I'd like to think that includes me -- most of the time), avoid the source of offense. We do not act in the manner described above. You and I understand that. Apparently, others do not -- and will find reason to excuse it ad naseum.
There's a point when one has realize one's limitations, abandon the hopeless cause, and move onto more realistic endeavors.
Otherwise, it's just gonna' damage your calm.
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Citizen, if I had more time (As in your situation to me) I could easily take every paragraph you type, look up and site sources that go aganst the point your trying to prove (not to mention make me look way super cool !!), use a few big words and come up with the perfect rebutle to everything you say, but I wont and im not, I was here to put out my origional point, and honestly, we both know we can just keep running around in circles so im going to stop here. I dont want to argue with you I just wanted to throw my opinion out, if you dont look it good, I didnt expect alot of people to, I know its extreme. But spare me the holy crusader im going to rip you apart and reform your ideas with my internet logic, its not working.
Cartoon makes some very interesting points in his statement, maybe the US aint perfect, but ya know what, I dont see other countrys rebuilding and helping other nations on the scale that we have done it (And obviously help do threw history). Also since you wanna quote the typical "America wants t3h oil" crap at me, maybe youd like to touch on the subject on the billions of dollars of of illegal oil france got its grity paws on threw manituplation of a little program called oil for food and however many other countrys. Everyones up in arms aganst the United States claiming we want oil, but ya know what, maybe we were sick of a terroist regime gettin super rich off of scum bag countrys that were willing to cheat the UN and the world by cutting behind the back deals and then watching the Iraqi Regime using those illegal funds to supress their people, fund terroist Jihads aganst good countrys trying to do positive things for the world.
So basically the United States stopped the free hand outs for a handful of countrys. We eliminated the centralized center of one of the worlds biggest terroist networks in Afganhistan and helped revitalize it a little bit (Its still a shit hole, but its Afghanistan, who knows if it can ever be revitalized), We eliminated a evil regime in Iraq (Yeah maybe we had a little something to do with setting it up, but at least we were man enough to come fix our mistake), We are helping revitalize a piss poor country and trying to redevelop its infrastructure and to top it all off, training a modern police force / army for them, AND Helping provide security so they can try to have their elections without some suicidal wacko with a bomb take em out. And you gladly quote the, UNITED STATES WANTED TEH OIL!!! Unfortunetly you are wrong. If we wanted oil we would have jumped on board with France and channeled money via unsupervised back door UN programs for it, no instead we sacrfice billions of dollars and thousands of lives to help rebuild a country, and your worried about us catching a little profit, ha.
Citizen lets put all the crap aside, tell me where Osama is right now and after I haul him in, ill cut you in on some of the reward.
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Cartoon you make some very good points and your right about trying to teach the blind color it can be very frustrating, I notice that they cant really argue the origional base point either, they have to twist and manipulate and work to entirley different subjects, as if quoting something they found on a quick google search is going to side track the way we feel ;)
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Cartoon:
Pretty much all your post is unmitigated crap.
I never once supported the rioters or Al Qaeda, if you’d actually read my posts rather than attempting to satisfy your own rhetoric you may have realised that. You want that to be my position so that you can demonise me and ignore anything else I had to say. My point has from the very beginning been about one thing and one thing only, Islam isn't an evil religion. If have tried quite hard to keep other strands out of my own posts, despite you and others bringing them up.
I said not once (and I would challenge you to quote me) that these riots are justified, or that these people should not be punished, I merely said that Islam wasn't evil, and attempted to show this by the supposition that Christianity can also be twisted in too something violent. You obviously don't like this, being a Christian, but you know what tough, it’s happened and it is happening.
I'll say it again in case you missed it:
Islam isn't an evil religion, those who follow Islam (that is properly) don't strap on bombs and fly planes into buildings.
That has been the only point I've been trying to make, I'm beginning to wonder if your mind is capable of absorbing it, or with a true grasp of cognitive dissonance all you read was My names Citizen, I like too support terrorists written over and over again.
It’s very telling that you can’t disprove the points I raised in respect to Christianity, but prefer to attack me instead with Childish innuendo, I take that as a win, thanks.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
You should never give powers to a leader you like that you’d hate to have given to a leader you fear
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Prey:
Actually a good deal of what I posted was off the top of my head, though often I do search or look at sites/books that I've already read in order to make sure my facts are straight, I understand if that’s a concept that is Alien to you. I also understand if the concept of debating a point based on the facts, rather than opinion and prejudice is totally alien to you, Militant Christian Fundamentalists often find facts get in the way of the pure pursuit of rhetoric.
Guess what I wasn't attacking the US, though that's the picture you want to paint of me, since it's then easy to just point to the good America has done and say see...
But unfortunately no matter how you paint the Iraq war it is Illegal, plenty of other states have done similar things in recent history and been vilified for it. Hell Mark Thatcher was arrested for trying to help enact "regime change" in Equatorial Guinea.
As for not seeing any other countries doing this stuff it just shows your ignorance, there are plenty of other countries involved.
Also the French weren't involved in the oil for food scandals that was some EU politicians, not nations, again your ignorance, not mine. Also US companies made billions from illegal Iraqi oil, something the American government, and indeed media, turned a blind eye too.
Since in America it was in vogue for a while to vilify the French cause they weren't doing what America wanted, that reaction is hardly surprising. Just so's ya know, your nation owes its existence to the French and that fine lady out in New York harbour, yeah she's French too. Ohh I bet that just eats you up inside.
You want an argument use the legal oil deals signed between Germany, France and Russia with Saddam prior to the Iraq war which I'm sure you knew nothing about.
Also Iraq never had any terrorist’s connections, there’s more terrorists in Iraq now than there ever were, in fact Osama Bin Landen hated Saddam because he was secular, not Islamic. Again a fact your ignorant little mind is probably unable to grasp.
As for my 'internet logic' not working I'd say, given the fact that you've added nothing to this discussion bar propaganda I see every day anyway and entirely baseless personal attacks I'd say it's working quite well. Also the supposition that I am blind is most amusing, especially since I obviously know more about the various groups and situations involved, no googling required.
Anyway, if you wish to furnish us with your undoubted insights into the Iraq war, based on your vast lack of facts, I believe theres a thread here right now for that very purpose. I urge you to go read it, since I'd love to see you ripped apart there too.
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Citizen lets put all the crap aside, tell me where Osama is right now and after I haul him in, ill cut you in on some of the reward.
I don't know where he is, obviously since not once have I spoken in defence of the rioters or terrorism, this statement would be like me saying:
Prey supports Hitler wholeheartedly.
Which I haven't said. In fact it is your position that more effectively supports Osama, not mine.
Though I can picture you goose-stepping to work at the local Muslim camp, a shiny new Christian Fundamentalist Neo-Nazi youth knife strapped to your hip, not a great stretch given the fact that you support unchecked global militarism.
I think the country you would have been most happy in would have been communist Russia, they liked the whole global war deal.
Bye sweetpea, and remember, never ever ever think for yourself, your local Militant Reverend and your daddy have your best interests at heart, even when they're telling you to bomb that abortion clinic. Your doing gods work
.Arse.
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Wow that was alot of writing, I must have touched a nerve somewhere. Islam is not a evil religion,only a portion of the people who follow it. Theres christans who are in the kkk, whats your point? My point is to kill people who want to kill me first, I think you like to talk, and your trying to look like a hero and live up to some weird standards that exist in your mind. If you have a problem with me stating my opinion then dont read it in the first place, making a compendium of information destroying my arguments and attacking me dosnt change anything. I never resorted to attacks aganst you, im sorry you feel the need to slander me in order to advocate your opinion over mine. I think ive said everything I wanted to say and then some, and I dont feel the need to carry on useless arguements with you in front of everyone who dosnt want to read them anyway so discharge your virtual testosterone and lets call it a day kid.
Ill see you all as soon as some other crazy Islamic news riles up the word and makes another big sensational post. Maybe me and cartoon can argue again and he can flex his e-penis for all of us.
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I did say that certain folks might damage your calm, and suggest that it might be advantageous to ignore those who are inclined to do so (as I've been doing). 
No one listens to me.
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Originally posted by Prey:
. Maybe me and cartoon can argue again and he can flex his e-penis for all of us.
Certainly not in public, sir. That would be crude.
Likely, not even in private.
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Whatever Prey, you kicked off by calling me an Islamic terrorists and you did insinute that Islam is evil, and Cartoon outright said it, but we both know you could never be in the wrong.
Though I see why you think you didn't start with the personal stuff, I mean everything you do is right and justifiable, no matter what that maybe, anything anyone else does is wrong, unless it's what you want them to do.
You say things then take them back and say you never meant that in the first place, it's all veeery boring.
You sound just like the extremists, and as such I agree there's no point continuing because you are beyond any semblance of reason. Good luck with that Son.
Oh and good luck with the global christian war you said you wanted, that'll be sure to spread peace and harmony.
Cartoon:
Yes, religious zealots that preach destruction of other religions on the grounds that they're evil can upset a reasonable moderate who believes in secularism.
Your posts are the result of allowing minors access to a computer.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
You should never give powers to a leader you like that you’d hate to have given to a leader you fear
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In case anyone wonder why I haven't been posting on this thread, which they probably haven't:
I'm just sitting back and watching the Jihad fly. Who knew it was so easy to spark a jihad? Grow your own! Confuse you friends! Amaze you enemies!
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