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Cheney goes on a rampage!!

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Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

I don't believe the "shot migrated" story. It leaves the reader with the impression that the shot somehow migrated from Whittington's face to his heart. The only way it could "migrate" that far would be through a large blood vein, which means the shot would have penetrated a deep blood vessel in his neck and likely would have bled to death.

SO, you shoot someone in the face at close range who is wearing an orange vest. Either you're a flippin' idiot, drunk, high, having a seizure, sneezing, or some combination of the above.



Just like that movie Fantastic Voyage - a nano submarine run by nano midgets "migrated" the Magic Bullet to the heart.

He's dead, Jim. Filed in the morgue next to Bush biz partner USAma Bin Laden.

Media Ignores Cheney 'Smoking Gun'
A 28-gauge shotgun fired at 30 yards is too weak to cause Whittington's injuries
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/infowarsnews/message/723

If lawyer dies, Cheney might face negligence charge
www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/02/15/cheney.legal.ap/index.html?section=cnn_law

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Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:06 AM

oops - double-clicked on my trigger finger - so that's how cheney shot him TWICE with his double-barrel shotgun:

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Originally posted by SignyM:

I don't believe the "shot migrated" story. It leaves the reader with the impression that the shot somehow migrated from Whittington's face to his heart. The only way it could "migrate" that far would be through a large blood vein, which means the shot would have penetrated a deep blood vessel in his neck and likely would have bled to death.

SO, you shoot someone in the face at close range who is wearing an orange vest. Either you're a flippin' idiot, drunk, high, having a seizure, sneezing, or some combination of the above.



Just like that movie Fantastic Voyage - a nano submarine run by nano midgets "migrated" the Magic Bullet to the heart.

He's dead, Jim. Filed in the morgue next to Bush biz partner USAma Bin Laden.

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: CHENEY BLOWS LAWYER'S HEAD CLEAN OFF - MSNBC: Andrea Mitchell, wife of Sir Alan Greenspan Knight of the British Empire, head counterfeiter of all US "money" at multinational Fed Reserve Bankster Corporation, is tasked with major coverup of Cheney's drunken shooting binge:
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/8519.php

Drunk Dick lone gunman shoots man in head AND heart. 2-time DUI convict Cheney dodges deputies for 14 hours.
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/127

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Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Hero:

We must rely on the testimony of the witnesses to say what happened. In this case, as a Prosecutor, I can say that the most compelling testimony comes from the victim, who says it was an accident and takes partial responsibility on himself for not announcing his approach. The victim says no harm, no foul...then I'd never in the absense of other compelling evidence or testimony, charge Cheney with a serious crime (there may be minor charges here, the game stamp for one, but that was resolved).



Cheney has confessed to perping a CRIME OF HUNTING WITHOUT A LICENSE, during which HE NEGLIGENTLY SHOT A HUMAN PERSON. HE CONFESSED TO OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE by ordering his armed gunmen bodyguard DEATH SQUAD to stop sheriff deputies from "interviewing" or observing or "SMELLING THE ODOR OF ALCOHOL" on Cheney for 14 hours. I'm sure the deputies would testify that THEY FEARED BEING MURDERED BY SECRET SERVICE. We have NOT seen ANY TV interviews of the victim, so WE HAVE ZERO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE THAT THE VICTIM IS STILL ALIVE.

TV talking heads have occasionally asked, "Would an average citizen be allowed to shoot someone in the head, then refuse to speak to police for 14 hours, without fear of arrest?"

The GOOD lesson in law to be learned from our VICE president is NEVER TALK TO POLICE. Just say NO, "I respectfully decline to answer that question." Or do what Cheney does and RUN AWAY, and defend yourself with bodyguards with machine guns and grenades. This is an important lesson that NO ONE is discussing. DON'T fall for the TeeVee brainwashing on COPS and People's Courts, by confessing your life story to the Police State Gulag Death Camp cartel via Tourett's Syndrome. SHUT UP!

Think how low our taxes would be if millions of Americans accused of "victimless crimes" could not be convicted and incarcerated (tortured) at a cost to ALL taxpayers of $50,000/year per prisoner.

This is the problem with our Police State - copsters arrest 100-MILLION Amerikans every year for victimless non-crimes, extort money from them, which wastes police time so the REAL criminals have nothing to worry about, except perhaps paying their bribes to copsters, judges and politicians to "license" their criminal enterprises.

If Cheney pleads guilty to a crime, either "negligent discharge of a firearm", "aggrevated assault", "involuntary manslaughter" or "criminally negligent homicide", then you can BET that Bush Jr will PARDON Cheney, just like Sir George Bush Sr Knight of the BRITISH Empire pardoned his cocaine-dealing employees at White House during Iran-Contra, which Cheney was a part of.

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RUE
Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:57 AM

I personally don't invoke international conspiracies to imagine Cheney as a drunk, weasley, shifty coward.


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Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:46 AM

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Originally posted by Hero:

Am I a Prosecutor? (Looks at little gold badge..) I hope so, otherwise I'm going to be in real trouble for sending that guy to jail yesterday for his OMVI (in Ohio we simplified DUI by changing it to OMVI which is Operating a Motor Vehicle Under the Influence).

You say the victim does not decide whether or not a law was broken. Neither do I. The truth of whether or not a law was broken is not relevant to the issue. Thats for the Jury (or the Judge for a bench trial) to decide.

My consideration is my good faith belief that I can prove a violation of the law beyond reasonable doubt. For that I need witnesses and/or evidence. In this case we have witnesses all agreeing its an accident and experts (including myself as a hunter and a person whose been near missed by buckshot while sitting on my own back porch near a state game lands, back when I lived in PA as a kid that is) who agree it was an accident. No evidence or witnesses as yet to the contrary. The victim even agrees it was an accident and takes some small measure of responsibility. There is no grounds for a criminal case, not because a law may or may not have been brokem, but because if one might have been broken, there is simply no way to prove it.

I also note for the record the police report posted on Smoking Gun indicates that the victim was interviewed and his story is the same as the Vice Presidents. So while he may not have rushed to a microphone to give a press conferance, both parties did give statements to the only people who really deserve one, the police.

I also note for the record that while there is no viable criminal case at this time, the victim has a hell of a civil case against Cheney and the property owner...civil standards of proof are much lower.



So you're one of those scumbag "prosecutors" for the COMMUNIST Police State Death Camp Gulag Scam. For you to call yourself a "Hero" simply shows your own insanity. You aren't a "prosecutor", you're a pussy.

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"My client was running nekked in the woods, and another hiker got mad and started a fight, resulting in arrest of my client. It turned out the hiker who started the fight was prosecuting attorney. My naked client kicked his ass. Ha! After I kicked the prosecutor's ass in court, we ran up a $10,000 bar tab in celebration, billed to the client!"
-My brother, the trial lawyer, licensed pilot and new aircraft salesman, current candidate for judge

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It's ASSHOLE CRIMINAL prosecutors like you who refuse to prosecute REAL criminals LIKE CHENEY AND BUSHES, while prosecuting MILLIONS of honest Americans for VICTIMLESS NON-crimes. WHY DON'T YOU PROSECUTE 30-MILLION CRIMINAL ALIEN TERRORISTS IN USA TODAY, FOR THE CRIMES OF CRIMINAL TRESPASS, FRAUD, THEFT, ROBBERY, RAPE, DRUG DEALING AND MURDER?!

For example, as you know, "DUI" is BS, since the non-crime does NOT involve alcohol, there is NO "passing score" for so-called "alcohol tests", does NOT require alcohol to get a conviction, and does NOT require driving to get a conviction. "DUI" IS IN FACT THE TOTAL PROHIBITION OF ALCOHOL, as most 18 to 20-year-old adults know all too well. "DUI" law is a FRAUD and a SCAM perpetrated by Gangsta Govt and their "Jewish" masters in the "insurance" protection/extortion rackets, against the gullible illiterate public.

Thanks for opening the door to this line of questioning.

First Defense:

There is NO "passing score" for an "alcohol test". A victim is ALREADY under arrest BEFORE taking a so-called "breath-alcohol test".

Exhibit

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Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:00 AM

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Originally posted by Hero:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
But I noticed that Hero and his doppleganger Cartoon ignore my common-sense posts. (snip)



Actually I found your post to be quite worthy of a thoughtful response...except for the quip about my Prosecutorial credentials.



If I'm Hero's doppleganger, does that mean that I'm an assistant prosecutor?!?!

Actually, I don't think Hero needs an assistant. He's well able to handle any comments from peanut gallery on his own.

I'm basically just agreeing with the few bits of sanity I've seen in here lately (which would include Geezer and Kwicko and perhaps a few others).

Grateful for the few voices of reason crying in a wilderness of ineptitude, folly, and imagined conspiracies.



Would rather be the janitor in a house of reason than the king of the asylum.

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RUE
Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:32 AM

Cartoon

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I'm basically just agreeing with the few bits of sanity I've seen in here lately (which would include Geezer and Kwicko and perhaps a few others).

Grateful for the few voices of reason crying in a wilderness of ineptitude, folly, and imagined conspiracies.

Actually, you're doing much more than that. I reviewed all of your posts. In them I found ad hominem attacks, straw-man arguments, false reasoning etc, and plain old flame-baiting in every sentence.

Here are the specifics, in order:
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Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the major networks didn't carry the story like the title of this post.
undistributed middle, subverted support
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After all (as I've said elsewhere in this forum), we all know that Bush (which, I suppose, would have to include Cheney by association) is responsible for everything bad that's ever happened to mankind.
existential fallacy, straw man, subverted support
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Actually, I think in Texas you're required to shoot someone -- aren't you?
straw man
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Incidentally, I think next time Cheney should take the Washington Press Corps hunting with him. That would make a whole lot of people very happy.
straw man, hasty generalization
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The big problem with your train of thought, Hero, is that it's logical, makes sense, and wasn't conceived while smoking an illegal substance.
attacking the person
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The thing you (and most intelligent, sane-thinking folks like you) don't understand is that everything is Cheney's fault.
attacking the person, appeal to authority, style over substance
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Even if Cheney was the person who'd been shot, and he didn't possess a gun, it would've been his fault.
straw man, slippery slope, prejudicial language, subverted support
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I agree. A lot of this stuff is hilarious. But, uh -- they, uh -- they actually believe it.
attacking the person


So, I conclude that your main goal is to be petty and snide since you can't seem to put a real argument together.


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:01 AM

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rue wrote:

Actually, you're doing much more than that. I reviewed all of your posts. In them I found ad hominem attacks, straw-man arguments, false reasoning etc, and plain old flame-baiting in every sentence.



Yes, Propaganda 101.

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Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:06 AM

Team Pirate,

Actually, I think you're being unfair here. Some people on the forum used to propagandize, but I think if cartoon does it he's unintentionally regurgitating something that he has taken in, we all have some of that in our systems because the media feeds it to us daily.

You, too, pirates, have this. You don't think you do because you think it comes only from the MSM, but it comes from the conspiracy media as well. The vast majority of conspiracy sites out there are loaded with propaganda not relavent to their stories.

Allow me to explain.

Let's say there's a man, let's call him Icke, who has an agenda, to spread the word of Christ. He will then find fallacies about anyone else, flaws in any official story, and post them. If he tells you that someone has taken bribes from some corporation, it may be true. Telling you that is not in line with his goals, he doesn't gain directly from you believing it, but he does gain your trust, and subtle seeds are fed in to the stories to attract you to his true position.

Now Icke is an obvious example of this, but there is a a lot of that to a lesser degree elsewhere. There are many things that you guys have picked up.

In particular, Pirate News, I think you, who I have some respect for, because you really know a lot of stuff, have picked up, and I would call these clay pigeons, or possibly lawyers, I'm not always sure:

1. UFOs. Not much of this comes through, but the only UFOs around are military aircraft.

2. Christianity. You aren't on the Icke slant, but you don't attack Christ as viciously as you should. Church conspiracies have been some of the most vile in history, and continue to be so.

3. Jews. An awful lot of people in these conspiracies are not jewish, and when they are, or remotely so, their jewishness is totally irrelevent to their involvement. The closest thing to the truth here is that our zionism is connected to the fact that Wolfowitz and Perle are jewish. While there may be something in this, Zionism is just being used to achieve a greater end here.

I'm just trying to shine a light in your direction so you can see through the filter and maybe hit the truth.


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Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:34 AM

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Grateful for the few voices of reason crying in a wilderness of ineptitude, folly, and imagined conspiracies.
Umm, so tell me, Cartoon... which conspiracies did I support? Or is this your usual baseless ad hominem attack?

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