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Cheney goes on a rampage!!

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Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:43 AM

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Originally posted by piratejenny:

LOL!! Cheney and the victum were probably fighting over who was going to hunt down their prey in the most dangerous game the victum won, so Cheney shot him!!( I couldn't resist)



Perhaps the nekked lady ran between them?

At least Cheney's not as bad as the Queen of England, who shoots 1,000 birds/day, just to keep her blood-lust fresh for her British subjects. These are caged shoots in Europe.

That might even be what Cheney was on, since he probably can't hike or stand that much, in his condition.

Or maybe his pacemaker just kicked in, and he shot Wittington in an epileptic seizure? Apparently, this is a common side effect of pacemakers.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:32 AM

I heard that the guy Cheney accidently shot just had a heart attack, but he's still alive. Talk about having a bad day! Hope he gets well.

River

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Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:

I heard that the guy Cheney accidently shot just had a heart attack, but he's still alive. Talk about having a bad day! Hope he gets well.



Score one for the little animals. TeeVee said that 70 hunters shoot and kill each other every year in Texas, usually when drunk. I'd say the animals are putting up a fair fight.

"Every day's a negotiation and sometimes it's done with guns."
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Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:26 PM

I don't believe the "shot migrated" story. It leaves the reader with the impression that the shot somehow migrated from Whittington's face to his heart. The only way it could "migrate" that far would be through a large blood vein, which means the shot would have penetrated a deep blood vessel in his neck and likely would have bled to death. Alternately- and more realistically- the shot was already near his heart and just moved a little bit.

Either way, if they were using birdshot and wearing clothes (Sarita TX hi 75, lo 57- doubtful they were hunting nekked) the shot would have to be from pretty close up to penetrate to the heart. According to the parties involved, they were all wearing bright orange hunting vests.

SO, you shoot someone in the face at close range who is wearing an orange vest. Either you're a flippin' idiot, drunk, high, having a seizure, sneezing, or some combination of the above.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:17 PM

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Originally posted by piratejenny:
the way I see it there are two possible scenarios Cheney was drunk and shot the man in the face, or Cheney was pissed and shot the man in the face, either way I don't categorize this as an accident,


I suspect you started with the idea that this wasn't an accident and that limited your imagination in coming up with possible scenarios.

I humbly suggest the possibility that Cheney was tracking a bird (meaning he was looking skyward (not straigt up, just not looking at the ground...probably the quail was flying fairly low). It tracked into the sun glare. Meanwhile the other person was approaching, unannounced from lower ground with the sun in the sky behind him. Buckshot spreads out so the man was hit with several pellets rather then taking a full on blast. Thats why he was relatively uninjured, scratches and a couple little holes (until his heart attack, but thats a bit of bad luck).

Or perhaps the man waited watching and at just the right moment he dived into the shot pattern seeking to become injured. A deliberate act by a derranged man. Perhaps it was an Iranian quail and this was all a set up.

There are a thousand possible ways this went down. We must rely on the testimony of the witnesses to say what happened. In this case, as a Prosecutor, I can say that the most compelling testimony comes from the victim, who says it was an accident and takes partial responsibility on himself for not announcing his approach. The victim says no harm, no foul...then I'd never in the absense of other compelling evidence or testimony, charge Cheney with a serious crime (there may be minor charges here, the game stamp for one, but that was resolved).

H

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Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:13 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
The victim says no harm, no foul...then I'd never in the absense of other compelling evidence or testimony, charge Cheney with a serious crime (there may be minor charges here, the game stamp for one, but that was resolved).



The big problem with your train of thought, Hero, is that it's logical, makes sense, and wasn't conceived while smoking an illegal substance. As such, it doesn't belong in this thread.

The thing you (and most intelligent, sane-thinking folks like you) don't understand is that everything is Cheney's fault. (Actually, everything is Bush's fault -- and therefore, Cheney's through association. Haven't you seen my previous threads which explain the reasoning behind this? )

Even if Cheney was the person who'd been shot, and he didn't possess a gun, it would've been his fault. Isn't that obvious?!?! Come on. Get with the show. Jump on the bandwagon. You don't want to be the only reasonable, sane-thinking person around, do you?

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Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:01 PM

I am starting with the assumption that this WAS an accident. But like most accidents, it begins with somebody doing something stupid.

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I humbly suggest the possibility that Cheney was tracking a bird (meaning he was looking skyward (not straigt up, just not looking at the ground...probably the quail was flying fairly low). It tracked into the sun glare. Meanwhile the other person was approaching, unannounced from lower ground with the sun in the sky behind him.
Rule No 1 in hunting: If you can't clearly see your target, you don't pull the trigger. I'm not a hunter, but I work with several. These guys are responsible hunters, but they've also come back with stories about bullets whizzing past their ears because some other hunter shot at sound. But hey, this isn't the first time Cheney's blasted at a phantom target.
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Buckshot spreads out so the man was hit with several pellets rather then taking a full on blast. Thats why he was relatively uninjured, scratches and a couple little holes (until his heart attack, but thats a bit of bad luck).
Do you know this or are you just speculating? I haven't seen any pictures of Whittington on TV saying how great he's feeling and the medical report estimates from 5 to 200 pieces of lodged shot. OTOH, it seems like the shot would have to have been at close range to penetrate an orange vest and a shirt (or vest, shirt and jacket, depending on the weather) all the way to his heart. Since Cheney has every reason to spin this in the most positive light, unless I hear specific news backed by medical reports that the injuries were "minor" and/or live interviews of the victim himself (Notice that we haven't heard direct quote yet?) I'm going to assume that they were NOT "minor".
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There are a thousand possible ways this went down.
Maybe Cheney sneezed at the wrong time. But the one invariant is that he turned and pointed his gun behind him. Turning around without breaking open your shotgun is enough to get you banned from skeet-shooting ranges. That's a big non-no.
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We must rely on the testimony of the witnesses to say what happened. In this case, as a Prosecutor, I can say that the most compelling testimony comes from the victim, who says it was an accident and takes partial responsibility on himself for not announcing his approach.
The victim does not decide whether a law was broken or not.
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The victim says no harm, no foul.
But only in civil cases in which money is to be awarded.
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In this case, as a Prosecutor
Are you sure you're a Prosecutor?

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Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:30 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:
You don't want to be the only reasonable, sane-thinking person around, do you?


I've been on this board a long time. There are good discussions and bad discussions. The good ones make it worth while.

Oh, and we get to laugh at the really wacky folk that chime in from time to time (smiles at PirateJenny).

H

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Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:36 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
Oh, and we get to laugh at the really wacky folk that chime in from time to time.



I agree. A lot of this stuff is hilarious. But, uh -- they, uh -- they actually believe it.




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Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:44 PM

But I noticed that Hero and his doppleganger Cartoon ignore my common-sense posts. Must be because they can't think of anything to say. I suppose in a way I should be flattered, so "thank you" for that indirect compliment.

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