Dune: 'Extended Edition' DVD vs. 'Long' TV version?

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UPDATED: Thursday, March 16, 2006 00:15
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FOLLOWMAL

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:34 AM

I will, Chris... been busy with taxes, and gave up viewing it over the weekend as I had to sort, since I had my husbands attention to help.

I hope tomorrow to dive in and I'll let you know.

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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:51 PM

Thanks for the HBDay.
Finished the long version late last night (I spread it ocver two nights), and then watched further deleted scenes, and I'm truly puzzled; why ARE there deleted scenes at all? I mean, as long as the editing was, shall we say, questionable, why not just throw in everything that they could? Some of the 'deleted' scenes were at least as interesting as the extra scenes they did include....?

Oh well, you'll see.

Change wakes up something deep Chrisisall

STORYMARK

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:49 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Thanks for the HBDay.
Finished the long version late last night (I spread it ocver two nights), and then watched further deleted scenes, and I'm truly puzzled; why ARE there deleted scenes at all? I mean, as long as the editing was, shall we say, questionable, why not just throw in everything that they could? Some of the 'deleted' scenes were at least as interesting as the extra scenes they did include....?

Oh well, you'll see.

Change wakes up something deep Chrisisall

Simply a matter of running time. The extended edition was not assembled for the DVD, but was created in the mid-80's for TV airing. For that purpose, it was spread out to fill out 4 hours of TV time (allowing for commercials), originally spread out over 2 nights (though the Scifi channel shows it strait through from time to time). Adding the other deleted scenes would have pushed that version past the allotted timeframe, so they were left out.

Universal invited Lynch to do an entirely new cut of the film for this DVD, presumably useing the other deleted scenes, to make a version Lynch was happy with (as he had his name removed from the existing extended version), but he declined.

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EMPRESSPIRK

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 6:55 PM

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Empresspirk,

Both the Dune mini series and the follow up Children of Dune are available at amazon for a paltry $10 each. For that price I'm gonna pick them up myself. Happy hunting.

Thanks, Singate, for the info. I'm definitely gonna get them both. I'm still debating whether to get just the theatrical version of the movie or this new extended edition.

One question: is the Children of Dune based on any of Herbert's books or is it something different all together?

STORYMARK

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:05 PM

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Originally posted by empressPirk:
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Originally posted by singate:
Empresspirk,

Both the Dune mini series and the follow up Children of Dune are available at amazon for a paltry $10 each. For that price I'm gonna pick them up myself. Happy hunting.

Thanks, Singate, for the info. I'm definitely gonna get them both. I'm still debating whether to get just the theatrical version of the movie or this new extended edition.

One question: is the Children of Dune based on any of Herbert's books or is it something different all together?

The Children of Dune miniseries adapts the 2nd and 3rd Dune books. The mini was in 3 parts. The first covers book 2, Dune Messiah, while parts 2&3 adapt the third book, Children of Dune.

I recently read an interview with John Harrison, who wrote both minis, and directed the first, about how he has approached SciFi about continuing the series either as another mini based on the 4th book, or a regular series based on the Dune prequel novels recently published. Unfortunetly, they weren't interested. Surprising, really, since both Dune minis were big ratings hits for the channel. Oh well....

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

EMPRESSPIRK

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:46 AM

Thanks, Storymark.

I didn't even realize there was a book 3. I just found book 1 in three separate parts and Dune Messiah book in the library so I got a bit confused.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:02 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Simply a matter of running time.

Thanks, Storymark. So simple, I should have thought of it.

No-mentat Chrisisall

THIEFJEHAT

Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:12 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

I recently read an interview with John Harrison, who wrote both minis, and directed the first, about how he has approached SciFi about continuing the series either as another mini based on the 4th book, or a regular series based on the Dune prequel novels recently published. Unfortunetly, they weren't interested. Surprising, really, since both Dune minis were big ratings hits for the channel. Oh well....

You just confirmed a long held fear I've had that God Emperor of Dune is not going to be adapted into a mini for the sci-fi channel. It saddens me but doesn't suprise me so much, if you've ever read it you'll see that it is very very heady and would be a titanic endeavor to put into a TV format.

I am a self-professed expert of all things Dune. Of the three adaptations of the series I feel that Children of Dune was by far the best and the closest to the spirit of Frank Herbert. Of the differences between the Sci-Fi Dune and Lynch's extended dune; Sci-fi stayed closer to the tale but put characters in silly costumes. Lynch nailed the acting (Dourif as Piter was astonishing) but he made up silly stuff like "killing people with sound" and heartplugs. Overall, you get the best experience if you watch Lynch's dune and Sci-fi's and cherrypick the best things about them.

But trust me on Children of Dune, it is by far superior to the previous Dune attempts. The costumes are toned down and the story is true to the books.

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AUSSAY

Sunday, March 5, 2006 6:11 AM

I like both versions, but Dune is such a detailed and complex book, the series does it more justice.

Lynch put some weird shit in the movie too.

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LUPINADDAMS

Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:15 PM

A lot of the "weird shit" Lynch put into Dune was derived from Arab Sufi sources - which is apt, at least, That speech Paul gives about using sound to destroy... it's a rephrasing of a prayer by Rumi.
(Without the whole 'make peoples eyes bleed and bust their organs" bit of course.)

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