Continuity Problem

POSTED BY: Hessian
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 02:02
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ASARIAN

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Rhyianan:

The command that was given in the fruity oaty bar commercial was meant for her to get herself noticed so that she could be found.

Now this is probably the most sensible thing I've heard in this thread! :) It starts with the Operative:

"Young miss, I'll need all the logs on behavioral modification triggers. We'll have to reach out to River Tam, and help her to come back to us."

And then, of course, is repeated and confirmed by Mr. Universe:

"It's a subliminal message, broadwaved to trigger her. I've been seeing this code pop up all over, the last few weeks. It's Alliance and it's high military. They have gone to enormous trouble to find your little friend."

Thank you for your post, Rhyianan. :)

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

AMITON

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:11 PM

I wouldn't get too worked up about SigmaNuki =) Generally people with the close-minded, hardline opinion ended up there exactly because they apply the same close-minded editorialism (eg. blinders is another common term) to what they see as to what they hear and read.

Most of us are able to descern the depth of character and attention to detail that Joss Whedon wrote into Firefly. It's his way, and he didn't abandon it for Serenity.

I do get a chuckle out of the vitriolic passion attacking Joss Whedon for diverging from his own story and admitting as much. The only admission that Joss made was that he had to make some changes for the movie medium to work - for purposes of exposition. He never said he changed characters, and the only blatant divergence from canon he said existed was the way he intended Simon's story to play out. But wait -- JOSS now accepts it as canon, and why? Because it works in the 'verse.

The complaints about what Joss changed about the story? Well...the characters are still the characters he wrote, the script is still the script that he wrote, and, oh, the story; there's another quote from Joss that deals with how all of this is all out of character for everyone, and to paraphrase, it states "Serenity is pretty much the course that I had plotted for the almost the entirety of season two from the beginning, just compacted into a two hour format."

Wow...if you're pissed off about how rediculous things are in the movie and how they never would have happened in the series were it to continue, then I can only imagine how you would have reacted when it *did* happen with the series still running.

*sigh*
Amiton.

PRACCHIA

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:30 PM

I knew about this show when it aired and heard it was going to get cancelled and did not want to watch it for that reason. I recently watched Serenity, and thought it was a good movie, not great but good. So with Arrested Development off (FOX!) and still waiting for the 2nd season of Dr Who to start, I decided to check out Firefly. I have not noticed anything drastically off about anything so far. And I have watched in order, Serenity, and the first 5 episodes of Firefly. I think this is/was a great show, and I am already regretting starting the series knowing it will be ending quickly in only 9 more episodes. But perhaps it can come back again sometime, Battlestar Galactica did. Farscape gave us Peacekeeper Wars. Lexx, well that show I think ended nicely.

STORYMARK

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:39 PM

A lot of the complaining I have seen/heard about the changes to the characters come from people who don't think characters or relationships should ever develop (which is unrealistic). They also seem to be people unfamilliar with Joss' other work, where he constantly evolves, or kills, his characters.

If you want characters who never, ever change, who remain exactly the same week to week, go watch Star Trek (which I enjoy, but on a far different level).

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

MISBEHAVIN

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:02 AM

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
...Personally, I felt the movie was a perfect, almost seamless continuation of the series. Perfectly fits with the emotional changes everyone would have gone through on the six months between show and movie...

Exactly. I saw the movie first and loved the characters and story. Then I watched the series in the proper order and -already knowing the end- was interested to see Joss laying the foundation for future developments in the story and River as the episodes progressed. It's very clear to me that the series was constantly moving us toward the ultimate destination that became the movie. Joss wanted the series to last for years, but he instead had to fast-forward us and squeeze the culmination into 2 hours.

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