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Monday, February 13, 2006 8:38 PM

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Originally posted by GutterBall:

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Originally posted by asarian:

Thank you very much!! I am soooooo ordering this!



*big grin* Does nothing ever get you down, Asarian? Have you been taking notes from Kaylee?

Not a snark! I swear!

You just confound me some, is all.



Behold, I got glad tidings about a Visual Companion who can be mine, if only money exchanges hands, and this is supposed to get me down? :) LOL. Well, what can I say? I love my Kaylee! She's a regular sweetheart.

Funny how that works, though. Only the other day I expressed a worry to a fellow browncoat here, how I went off again, all heavy-handed, on a River Tam tangent, and how I probably brought the whole room down; and how I might look all creepifying and weird. And today, I appear too cheerful. Ha! :) So, lemme see if I got this right; morbid and creepifying, you got no problem with, long as I'm not cheerful? :) Wow! What brave new 'verse that has such creatures in it!

Seriously, though, you don't believe there's a power in the 'verse that can stop me from being cheerful? You'd be wrong. Life, well, it sucks. :) Like that guy, yesterday, talking about his taxes. Why, see, I get that! In fact, that is precisely why I'm here: this world does NOT suck. :) Here, in the 'verse, everything is shiny. In "This Land" I can Love River Tam; and she makes me happy; and she makes me believe in humanity. And no one mocks that dream; in fact, many a shiny browncoat shares it with me; yup, a thousand points of light -- the FireFly variety. And the greatest charge I have yet been submitted to, is that of of being cheerful. Good man, do you not see? That alone makes me cheerful! :) I am genuinely happy here! See, now I got all emotional. Breaks the heart.

To finally answer your question (terse I am not; nor laconic), I got the worthier notes from River, of course; but this one I tore out of Kaylee's book, and it did not just turn into paper: you just gotta have faith in people!

Cheerfulness keeps the 'coat shiny. I Love shiny; and River Tam; and not necessarily in that particular order. :)


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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

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Monday, February 13, 2006 9:20 PM

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Originally posted by asarian:
So, lemme see if I got this right; morbid and creepifying, you got no problem with, long as I'm not cheerful?


Heh, that's about the size of it.

Kidding! Actually, I rather marvel at your chipperness. I tend to be more snarky. Even a little cynical. Never outright a downer, as I rarely take anything seriously, but never quite smiley, either.

Don't change, Asarian. We like you just as you are, River-loving and all.

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...this world does NOT suck. :) Here, in the 'verse, everything is shiny. In "This Land" I can Love River Tam...

*shiny grin* Does that mean that, in This Land, I get Jayne?

Woot! Sign me up! Maybe This Land is worth savin' after all!

*hides the button again*

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Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:19 AM

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Originally posted by DonCoat:

Two great revelatory moments there, Asarian.

You weren't the only one to miss the implications of the Mal/Zoe exchange. In one of the commentaries, Joss mentions that Gina came to him and said, "This is about me, isn't it?" Nathan was standing there too, and he said, "What? It is?... Oh God, I don't believe I missed that!"

Joss also said it was funny to him *because* Nathan almost always "got it".

It took me a couple viewings to get that one, too, but I caught the River moment right away. It was quickly confirmed, too, because I read the script in the Visual Companion.



Thank you, DonCoat, for your nice and complete reply.

I wonder where you heard all those commentaries. Seems I'm a little slow on the uptake.

Well, I've seen and read enough interviews and commentaries (plus seeing him in the flesh at the Flanvention) that I can't really remember which particular one(s) included those comments. I would have said it was in the Serenity director's commentary as a first guess, but I could easily be wrong.

I'm glad to see you've already gotten the information about the VC. You will find it does nothing to diminish your cheerful demeanor, I'm afraid...

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Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:36 PM

This one's from the BDM:

Did anyone else notice that the Operative only calls Mal "Mal" after he stabs him during the big fight at the end? It's weird!

Before, he only called him "Captain" or "Malcolm", very formal, very proper. But they're fighting, there's the stab...and a look of almost regret passes over the Operative's face, and he murmurs, "Do you know what your sin is...Mal?"

It's almost like only then does he respect the man enough to use the more familiar term. To be almost friendly, in a way.

It's like now, he knows Mal well enough to acknowledge it.

Very subtle, but a very nice touch.

Heh, there's also the benefit that I had to watch the movie all over again just to be sure I hadn't just imagined it. Woo-hoo!

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Monday, February 20, 2006 1:33 AM

Maybe I'm way off base here, but after viewing "Shindig" a couple of times, I keep going back to the scene where River is tearing the labels off the cans, and smashing up the crackers.

When Book and Simon go to try and calm her down, Book seems to be more irritated/angry than the situation seems to call for when he mentions, "We'll just have a couple of mystery meals".

It seemed to hearken to the scene in "Objects in Space" when River 'hears' Book comment snidely, "I don't care if you're innocent or not, so where does that leave you?"

I dunno, it just struck me as a bit odd.

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Monday, February 20, 2006 3:32 AM

This isn't very 'subtle' or 'interesting', but it IS adorable and hilarious - In Our Mrs. Reynolds, watch Alan Tudyk's face while YoSafBridge does her "Stars" speech. His expressions are wonderful. He's clearly reacting to the subtext in that speech, going from a little interested to deeply uncomfortable and even round-eyed in surprise. It's a fun sequence, and it makes his discomfort later even funnier.

Yub, yub.

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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:02 AM

Subtle and amusing...and not at all important:

In The Train Job, when they come out of the Alliance-friendly bar swingin', please notice that Mal's fighting one guy, Zoe's fighting one guy, and Jayne...is fighting THREE.

Heh. Love that guy.

And he's the one that wasn't gonna fight because he "didn't fight in no war. Best o' luck, though."

*snort* As if he would miss out on a good brawl.

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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:07 AM

i have two very favorite very subtle things that haven't been mentioned yet...

in war stories, at the very end, when mal's ear has been re-attached... you might notice, that the only place on his neck/cheek that's clean is around his ear. like that's all simon needed to clean to do the op, and that's all he was going to.

and the other is in trash, watching it again, knowing that the crew knows the plans, kaylee's reactions to everything said, and especially wash's overabundant outbreak... classic, and very subtle, cuz your eyes are not on her. and you can even see her calm herself down to get to business... its great...


my third fave has already been mentioned with the 3 switches thing...

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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:54 PM

In "Serenity" the pilot, Simon forces Mal's hand by threatening to withhold medical attention from Kaylee, who has been shot in the stomach. In the BDM, these actions come full circle: Simon gets shot in almost the exact same spot when he stands up to get his medkit in order to attend to Kaylee.

I originally thought maybe it was just a coincidence, but after having read all the other subtleties here, I'm begining to suspect otherwise!

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:33 AM

Don't kill me, I don't have all the episode names commited to memory, yet. This about the "Bounty hunter" episode, when River is walking through the ship listening to everybody...she comes up on Wash and Zoe in a very intimate moment...and their passion for each other overwhelms her...then River said "I'll be in Jayne's bunk".

Sorry, I made that last part up



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