Subtle yet interesting show observations -- post yours
POSTED BY: AnimalM0ther
UPDATED: Friday, December 7, 2007 19:19
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A lot of the planet and place names go back to Roman and Greek mythology or Shakespeare-Hera (wife of Zeus-goddess of the hearth),Ariel, Persephone (spouse of Hades, he kidnapped her-she revists her mother on the earth for 6 months-Spring, Suumer- then spends 3 months with Hades-Winter), Belerophon, Osiris etc are the ones from mythology.
Some of the Shakespeare references are from "The Tempest" and other plays-Miranda(Prospero's innocent and nieve daughter), Caliban etc. Joss himself in the commentary refers to Mal's speech in the dining room in the BDM as his "St. Crispins Day speech".
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I love the fact that Jayne's very favourite gun is called Vera - which means Faith or Truth in Russian, and Summer in Albanian!!!
So Jayne is fighting using Faith and Truth.......... ian't THAT ironic!
And, of course, the connection with Summer Glau's name. As well as the Russian connection: River's safe words are in Russian.... Spooky connections!
Faith (or lack of) is a theme running through Joss' work:
Faith, the other Vampire Slayer
The Scoobies faith in Buffy
His team's faith in Angel
Caleb, the mad preacher in Buffy (played by Nathan)
Shepherd Book's faith in God
The Crew's faith in Mal and Serenity, and so on.. .....
So Cool!!!!! Shiny!!
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Originally posted by Humbug:
I love the fact that Jayne's very favourite gun is called Vera...
I love that gun. His devotion to it brings a tear to the eye. *sniff*
Melts this ol' Ice Queen every time.
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Yesterday, at the end of the BDM (only in my possession for four weeks now), I had a Duh! moment (still like to call it "subtle", though, so as not to make me appear stupid).
Mal and Zoe walk towards each other, in the cargo bay; then halt, facing each other closely.
Zoe: Inspection's pos' and we're clear for up-thrust.
Mal: Think she'll hold together?
Zoe: She's tore up plenty. But she'll fly true.
How would Zoe know whether "she'll hold together"? (notice the "she"). This would really be the proper conversation to have with the ship's mechanic, Kaylee. Then I suddenly realized: captain ain't talking about his boat; he's talking about Zoe! And asking her whether she will hold up after what she gone through (what with Washes untimely demise and all).
Now y'all think: didn't you realize that? No, I didn't. :)
And another one:
At Miranda, River throws up after hearing the recording. Simon walks up to her.
Simon: River.
River: I'm all right.
...
River: I'm all right.
See? I didn't get that before, either. But yesterday it suddenly dawned upon me, as well. At the second "I'm all right" (and you can hear it in her voice) River's no longer talking about the retching, but realizes, and effectively says, for the first time, "Things will be fine, Simon; I'm gonna be okay!"
(now I'm all choked up again)
This is, in fact, a turning point for River (after, in the pantry, River had said: "Things are going to get much, much worse.")
Sniff. Who could not Love River!?
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Two great revelatory moments there, Asarian.
You weren't the only one to miss the implications of the Mal/Zoe exchange. In one of the commentaries, Joss mentions that Gina came to him and said, "This is about me, isn't it?" Nathan was standing there too, and he said, "What? It is?... Oh God, I don't believe I missed that!"
Joss also said it was funny to him *because* Nathan almost always "got it".
It took me a couple viewings to get that one, too, but I caught the River moment right away. It was quickly confirmed, too, because I read the script in the Visual Companion. That line includes the notation that River's eyes are full of clarity on the repitition of the line. That makes Joss' intent pretty clear.
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Originally posted by DonCoat:
Two great revelatory moments there, Asarian.
You weren't the only one to miss the implications of the Mal/Zoe exchange. In one of the commentaries, Joss mentions that Gina came to him and said, "This is about me, isn't it?" Nathan was standing there too, and he said, "What? It is?... Oh God, I don't believe I missed that!"
Joss also said it was funny to him *because* Nathan almost always "got it".
It took me a couple viewings to get that one, too, but I caught the River moment right away. It was quickly confirmed, too, because I read the script in the Visual Companion.
Thank you, DonCoat, for your nice and complete reply.
I wonder where you heard all those commentaries. Seems I'm a little slow on the uptake.
One other thing, though, what is this Visual Companion you're referring to? I've seen it mentioned before. It sounds like a must-have item (visual 'companion', now there's a disturbing mental image; eew; lol).
Thanks!
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Originally posted by asarian:
One other thing, though, what is this Visual Companion you're referring to? I've seen it mentioned before. It sounds like a must-have item (visual 'companion', now there's a disturbing mental image; eew; lol).
Serenity The Official Vissual Companion
ISBN 1-84576-082-4
Edit: Available through Amazon via the link on the home page.
It's basically the shooting script, an interview with Joss, and some production notes combined with lots of pretty pictures from the movie, concept art, story boards and the like.
I would call it a must have.
David
You wanna go, Little Man?
Only if it's someplace with candle light.
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Originally posted by asarian:
One other thing, though, what is this Visual Companion you're referring to? I've seen it mentioned before. It sounds like a must-have item (visual 'companion', now there's a disturbing mental image; eew; lol).
Serenity The Official Vissual Companion
ISBN 1-84576-082-4
Edit: Available through Amazon via the link on the home page.
It's basically the shooting script, an interview with Joss, and some production notes combined with lots of pretty pictures from the movie, concept art, story boards and the like.
I would call it a must have.
Thank you very much!! I am soooooo ordering this! :)
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Originally posted by asarian:
Thank you very much!! I am soooooo ordering this!
*big grin* Does nothing ever get you down, Asarian? Have you been taking notes from Kaylee?
Not a snark! I swear!
You just confound me some, is all.
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Misstressahara wrote:
Monday, January 30, 2006 15:48
No, your not wrong Nandi, it's in the original 2 parter Serenty pilot. It's lead in from the conversation Inarah and Book are having talking about the Captain.
She asks "Why are you so fascinated by him?" he replies "Because he's somewhat of a mystery. Why are you?" she answers "Because so few men are." This fades to us seeing him buttoning up his pants (Damn, too late) him kicking up the toilet seat and then pulling out the sink and washing his face.
I didn't notice the toilet in the BDM, but I did notice this in the pilot. I love this scene, because not only is it very real, it's also a subtly hilarious scene - Inara was just saying Mal is a mystery, and the next thing you see is Mal taking care of a basic need...I guess in some ways he's not that mysterious after all...
Julia
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