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POSTED BY: cioccolata
UPDATED: Sunday, February 12, 2006 01:24
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Saturday, February 11, 2006 8:52 AM

Blasphemy.....pure blasphemy....



How much is that little Geisha in the window?

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Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:49 AM

You made this topic to piss people off, right?

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Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:28 AM

Samuel L. Jackson as Book = LOL

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Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:29 AM

Sacrilege; of the sacrilegious kind.

Ya know, I was gonna lay this whole routine on you, how FireFly is River Tam; already had the whole thing done. It involved several wobbly-headed geisha dolls (don't ask) and, I have to admit, an occasional stray chicken. :)

But the truth really is, none of the cast can be replaced. Remove one of the crew, and you diminish the whole. Yes, I love my captain; and cheerful Kaylee; and Simon, noble as a grape; and Jayne, the full-muscular big guy, who can make ya laugh about nuttin' and scares the women; and Wash, the man who plays with dinosaurs, and has a wife that can kill him with her pinky.

Truly, with your cast, I dunno, ... I would probably have a life now, I guess. :) But a barren one. The current cast, they're all on my crew. Why we're still talkin' about this?

N.B. Of course, you understand, if there's a brain-missing executive out there who actually DOES, for a future series, decide to replace Summer Glau, then, well, the first thing he'd hear from me, would be: "Are you familiar with the works of Shan Yu?"


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Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:53 PM

I understand what you're getting at, and that you are not trying to "Replace" the cast (despite some here getting fairly annoyed at the mere suggestion, hypothetical or otherwise)
But, I don't entirely agree with your picks.

However, having said that, I think Steve Zahn is a stroke of genius - I could so see him playing Wash
But then again, Alan Tudyk is a fairly popular movie star in his own right, I would have thought at least on par with Zahn in the name department

Anyway, here are my suggestions (they're probably just as wrong, and I'm making this up as I go along)

Mal: Christian Bale
Wash: Steve Zahn (can't better yours)
Zoe: I reluctantly say Halle Berry (but I know thats an awful choice)
Jayne: Benicio Del Toro
Simon: Jake Gyllenhaal
River: Kate Beckinsale (or Maggie Gyllenhaal to go along with her RL sibling, not sure about her fight sequences though)
Shepherd: Morgan Freeman (can't remember who suggested that originally, but its too good to ignore)
Kaylee: Kate Bosworth
Inara: Carla Gugino

Serenity: The Millennium Falcon

(Ok, that last part was a joke intended to offend. Please don't kill me)

Btw, these are all picks of actors from the most popular movies of the last year or two. They're what you might say are the "in thing", but there are better actors out there that could play them

Of course, no one could replace the cast we got

Needy. Male Companion a.k.a. First Boy Whore of Destiny

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Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:00 PM

I did not post this to piss people off...all I did was post my thoughts on a topic like everyone else does, they have an opinion on a subject.
I have been a fan of Firefly since day one of the first trailer of the series debut.
I know that no actor in the verse could replace any single one of the cast of the show.
This is the the first time I have posted on this site since It it opened and well I am pretty upset at all the negative feelings I am getting towards me about posting my opinion. I think because we are all die hard fans of the show it is hard to see any actors in the roles except the ones it. All I was doing was wondering who would make a big splash and make a good Mal and so forth.
I will cower into my corner and never speak again.
Please delete this post and I will never speak again. Thank you for making me feel so welcome.
Still can't take the sky from me or stop the signal.

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Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:13 PM

woah cioccolata, no need to cower

Granted you did get some hasty, and not so appreciative, replies from some, but no need to run off

I know some can be pretty strong in their opinions, so much so that they presume a criticism of something they like is a criticism of themselves. And even when the series/movie is not being slated directly, some can be very protective of their "heroes"

Slightly odd how far some will go to put people in their place (and that's not directed at anyone in particular here) but I suppose thats what happens in fandom. The fact that there have been many trolls who post with the only intention of offending others or getting them riled up doesnt help

If you look around, there are plenty of nice folks here, and if you do feel that some are being unnecessarily harsh, then you can either apologise or ignore their comments (or both), just don't think that the replies of a few is indicative of us all and the forum as a whole.

And at the end of the day, even if you don't post, you can always visit the Blue Sun Room, there's plenty of art/fiction there

Actually, I don't start that many threads myself, but linger mostly in the threads of Destiny - where we write our own little adventures for the crew of a Firefly ship

Needy. Male Companion a.k.a. First Boy Whore of Destiny

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Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cioccolata:

I did not post this to piss people off...all I did was post my thoughts on a topic like everyone else does, they have an opinion on a subject.
I have been a fan of Firefly since day one of the first trailer of the series debut.
I know that no actor in the verse could replace any single one of the cast of the show.
This is the the first time I have posted on this site since It it opened and well I am pretty upset at all the negative feelings I am getting towards me about posting my opinion. I think because we are all die hard fans of the show it is hard to see any actors in the roles except the ones it. All I was doing was wondering who would make a big splash and make a good Mal and so forth.
I will cower into my corner and never speak again.
Please delete this post and I will never speak again. Thank you for making me feel so welcome.
Still can't take the sky from me or stop the signal.


Hey Cioccolata,

I'm sorry you are hurtin'; and I'm sorry, also, if my post contributed to that. Actually, I was just kinda trying to have a sense of humor about it; but I guess it didn't fan out all that well. :( So much for writing skills.

For what it's worth, though, I truly took your idea seriously; but, after short consideration, I just realized that the proposition itself is just too, well, unworkable. It's like asking whether the Mona Lisa would be a better painting with, say, Jessica Alba in it. :) I mean, a FireFly cast that's not the FireFly cast, well, that just's not FireFly. It would be, well, exactly what you said: just a big movie with some big actors. Probably would have done well, at the box office; but it would have left no magic trail. And it would, I think, not have left any of us spell-bound by it.

As for the rest, let's not do the whole cowering thingy, ok? :) I have a better idea. Let's just pretend you're River, and that you thought we didn't want you here. But you couldn't make yourself leave. So you melted... Melted away. We didn't know you could do that, but you did. :) And that then, in the next scene, you surprise us all, and appear to just have fiendishly clever stowed yourself away; and there you are again, and we all say: "I can win this!" Yeah, I think I like that ending a lot better. :)

Let's shoot for that! ... Or we could talk more. :)


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Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:36 PM

Cioccolata: No need to get offended. Some folk just didn't understand (or they understood, but they didn't comprehend) that your post was purely a hypothetical, for-fun-only kind of thing.

You and we all realize that this crew IS the right crew for Serenity. "We will keep this crew, and we will call it... this crew." But you're also right - bigger names would've undoubtedly made for bigger box office. But not for a better movie. Chances are, it would've been a much WORSE movie if Joss had just decided to plug in the hot name of the week.

Blasphemous as it sounds, I can actually picture Morgan Freeman as Shepherd Book, and Angela Basset as Zoe. I might suggest Seth Green as a suitable Wash replacement, but their demeanors are so similar (Wash and Oz) that that might be just a knee-jerk reaction on my part.

If we're just looking for hot names to fill in the blanks, why not get TRULY offensive?

Jennifer Lopez as Zoe
Jennifer Garner as Inara
Britney Spears as Kaylee
Lindsay Lohan as River
Ben Affleck as Mal (Hey, he's got weird relationships with Zoe AND Inara, both on the show and IRL!)
Owen Wilson as Wash
Chris Rock as Book
Bruce Willis as Jayne
Tom Cruise as Simon

Sounds horrible, doesn't it? But it sure would bring in the viewers...

On second thought, I'm glad we have the crew we have.

Mike

"Kaylee, find that kid that's taking a dirt nap with baby Jesus; we need a hood ornament."

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Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:49 PM

Youre all right...there is no way in the verse that any actor on this or any other planet who could make the movie any better than it is. All the actors in firefly are what make the characters so loveable and keep us coming back for more.
I have decided to not cower into any corner, but just watch the threads and comment appropriately when the time comes. I love ff.net and all who comment, each and every new comment is as unique and personnable as the person who wrote it.
I especially love the videos people have made. I would love to try that but have no talent for that, so I will just marvel at the talents of others and keep on enjoying the videos.

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