Why was river in a box?

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THEMANTHEYCALLEDJAMES

Saturday, February 11, 2006 12:25 AM

I saw the movie WAY WAY before I saw any of the TV show, and after watching the pilot...I have one big question why did SIMON PUT RIVER and in a box naked. When Simon broke her out of the academy she seemed fuctional (for River) and carrying a huge box around makes him even more noticialbe then if he just gave her a new hair cut and made sure she didn't wander off.

STEGASAURUS

Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:20 AM

Given her mental instability, the easiest way to get her outta Dodge was to just keep her quiet. What better way than to knock her out and put her in his carry-on?

There has been much debate about why they showed her leaving the facility fully awake with Simon in the movie, versus her being knocked out the whole time. All I can say is Hollywood has to make it exciting, and you're bound to find minor mistakes between the movie and the show. Call it "creative license" then move on. You get less of a headache that way.

CYBERSNARK

Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:48 AM

*wanders in, reads thread title*

'Cause if she'd been in a jar, everyone could've seen her.

*wanders out*

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CHRISTHECYNIC

Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:20 AM

I'm going to answer this in two steps:
1 Why did Simon put River in a box?
When it first happened they knew River had been broken out, but they didn't know by whom. They had her tagged as a fugitive, but didn’t yet know of Simon. (This is just my guess mind you.) In the big box River probably didn't give off life signs and the box was far less likely to be accused of being an escaped fugitive than the fugitive herself.

Remember Simon, who rarely if ever lies outright (but damn is he good at implication), said that they would sneak her to another planet. Since she was on a core planet that probably means customs.

2 Why was she naked?
My guess is that it has to do with the mechanics of being in cryo.

THESOAPBOXER

Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:26 AM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
2 Why was she naked?
My guess is that it has to do with the mechanics of being in cryo.

Joss: "Uh, yeah... mechanics of cyro, right... That's why..."

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DC4BS

Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:38 AM

Q: Why did Simon put River in a box?

A: To get to the other side of the road...

...At spaceport customs. And so whatever ship they traveled on would have no record of transporting a male & female together. Just a male and some cargo.

A can might have been more appropriate than a box now that I think of it.... Then Mal would have, literaly, opened up a can of whoop-ass in the pilot movie.

Maybe not. Just too many "can" jokes come to mind now that I think of it...

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PIRATENEWS

Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:46 AM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:

2 Why was she naked?
My guess is that it has to do with the mechanics of being in cryo.

Originally posted by thesoapboxer:

Joss: "Uh, yeah... mechanics of cyro, right... That's why..."

(1) Joss is smart
(2) Joss likes his acresses nekked
(3) Joss is smart
(4) Rupert Murdock's Foxy Page 3 Girls

But seriously, we like our actresses nekked too, so why nitpick?

Rationalize it this way, without reading the Serenity pilot script too close:

(a) Simon rescues River, certainly by paying hackers to change his face in the Interplanetary ID System (tm), an easy thing to do judging by the millions of ID thefts in 2005. His hacker mercs then erase his mugshot from the security cam feed, so he never needs a disguise (oops, then how did the Operative see his face?). Delete that.

(b) Simon puts River to sleep to, uhhhh, shut her up?

(c) What was the question?

(d) Ouch! My brain cell just popped.

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Saturday, February 11, 2006 5:26 AM

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Originally posted by Stegasaurus:
...and you're bound to find minor mistakes between the movie and the show. Call it "creative license" then move on.

I'm awfully fond of the term "revisionist history". It's just fun to say.

And it seems to suit. Heh.

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SIGMANUNKI

Saturday, February 11, 2006 6:26 AM

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Originally posted by themantheycalledJames:

I saw the movie WAY WAY before I saw any of the TV show, and after watching the pilot...I have one big question why did SIMON PUT RIVER and in a box naked. When Simon broke her out of the academy she seemed fuctional (for River) and carrying a huge box around makes him even more noticialbe then if he just gave her a new hair cut and made sure she didn't wander off.

The way you're talking, it's as if it changed from the way it happened in the movie to the way it happened in the show.

Point of fact, Simon did not break River out of the academy. He had people do it for him. Those people got her to Persephone where he picked her up. All this was stated explicitly in Serenity (ep not movie).

When Mal kicked off the lid to the box, Simon did make mention that she wasn't supposed to wake up for another week. And that the shock could... And we never got the end of that sentence. But, we did get that this was a temporary solution. Again, explicitly stated in Serenity (ep not movie).

Also, if we remember from Ariel, Simon did say that he'd have to be dead to enter the hospital to avoid getting id'd. Thus the inducing of a comatose state. I imagine that cryo would do approximatly the same thing.

Not to mention the fact that if anyone asked what was in the box, they could just say it's some nasty super virus bound for a research facility. Of course having the "official" papers to back that up. Now who would want to open the box after hearing that?

And there you go. A consistent history of what happened and why, only refering to things explicitly stated in the series. And only from two eps too

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BITTERBIERCE

Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:41 AM

"Why was river in a box?"

To get to the other side?

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