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Thursday, February 9, 2006 6:33 PM

As an evangelical Christian, I see and hear things which offend me every day. The media is full of anti-Christian bias. How do I react when I'm offended?

I avoid the source of the offense.
Occasionally, I go off the deep end and actually send an email to the offender.

That's how civilized people react to offense. They don't burn and pilage like a spoiled, self-centered, tantrum-throwing child.

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Thursday, February 9, 2006 6:52 PM

Christians react in similar ways all the time. John Lennon recieved death threats for saying that the Beatles were bigger than Jesus, they burned Beatles merchandise and there was some violence involved. Thats in countries that weren't supporting and stirring up the trouble.

Muslims aren't any worse than Christians Jews or anyone else. They're people and unfortunatly some people aren't the type you want to go have afternoon tea with.

To set up Christianity or any other religion as better than Islam takes enormous ignorance, dishonisty or just the same old childish games of "my religion is better than your religion, my god can beat up your god".



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Thursday, February 9, 2006 6:57 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:
As an evangelical Christian, I see and hear things which offend me every day. The media is full of anti-Christian bias. How do I react when I'm offended?

I avoid the source of the offense.
Occasionally, I go off the deep end and actually send an email to the offender.

That's how civilized people react to offense. They don't burn and pilage like a spoiled, self-centered, tantrum-throwing child.




Yeah but you are actually following the teachings of your religion. Jesus forgave the people who had just condemned him to the most painfull and protracted form of execution the ancient world could think of. If he could forgive that, how could a Christian not forgive a minor insult?

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Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:06 PM

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Originally posted by rivertamkicksass03:

But i also don't see why the people don't just appoligize for the images. Its not like freedom of speach will somehow vanish if someone appoligizes for drawing some cartoons




But that's the crux of the problem.

If they apologize for printing these cartoons, they admit that it was the wrong thing to do.

But by the principles of free speech, it was not wrong.

Insensitive, perhaps. But wrong? No.


So, yes, apologizing for practicing free speech would undermine the principles of it.

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Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:54 PM

I just wanted to point out the US has its own extremists.

An artwork of the cross dipped in urine was banned from civic display. A picture of the Virgin Mary executed in paint and dung was similary banned. This 'blasphemy" was just too much for civic government.

The US, supposed home of political free speech, has flirted with making defacing the flag illegal - a punishable crime.

Sure the protests are being allowed by SOME governments to distract their people, even perhaps Syria and Iran like Bush claims. But Afghanistan? Why did the (deadly) protests there drop off US radar?

So I wonder, in this scenario where some are taking advantage to advance their own agendas, what agenda is Bush pursuing?


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Thursday, February 9, 2006 9:31 PM

Aaahhh, the wonders of being a Canadian. We're loved by all (well, for the most part), and apparently we love everyone too. All I can say to this, is that this debacle in the Middle East gives us in the first world just another reason to ignore them altogether. The Muslims over there are still acting like it's the bloody Crusades and Middle Ages.

No Muslims I know that I go to school with in Manitoba are chanting or crying out for death to the Danish, or what-not.

I believe that the problem for this does not lie in the people themselves, (as with people in most countries) but are easily persuaded and seduced by a select few lunatic leaders who blow anything remotely against them out of proportion.

I personally do not know any way for this problem to be resolved, as it would most likely end with someone having to bend over backwards to apologize for something that's not that bad in the first place.

If it stays over there, in the Middle East, all the better.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 6:39 AM

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An artwork of the cross dipped in urine was banned from civic display. A picture of the Virgin Mary executed in paint and dung was similary banned. This 'blasphemy" was just too much for civic government


define band? what was the name/number of the law that was passed forbidding there display? what legislator voted on it? what judicial branch revued it? what are the minimum and maxim penalty for displacing blasphemes art and ware in America are they enforced?

civic i assume(I could be wrong) you mean something like a government venue (some building owned and run by the local government). so say i go by the court house and they have some sort of art display up (not uncommon thing to happen) something in it offends me. as a constituents i complain to the Mayer /consul man what ever. i'm not the only one that dose this, maybe they receive many complaints some pitons and letters form concerned citizens groups. should thay ignore this after all they are there to represent the need's and wishes of there constituents. off course not every body in town will agre, but the question is what is the ratio?

it's like those list's of "band" books. there not really band, if you want one you can go and get it no problem. there are a lot of book's that were not in the library when i was in school and there are a lot that the public library might decide not to carry (for different reasons). so what, i can still buy them or brow them form somebody else. (now child porn is and example of something band. not for sale and if you do manage to find some and are cout with it you go to jail)

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Friday, February 10, 2006 8:39 AM

It doesn't matter, point is when it comes to religious tolerance respect and sensitivity it's a Christian (and possibly Jewish) thing only. It's very telling that you couldn't see why that would upset Muslims.

The other very telling thing is how you see nothing wrong in curbing freedom of speech, no matter who is doing it, for the sake of Christians, but would even begin to countenance such an idea to spare Muslim feelings. Nice double standards.

You can’t use the freedom of speech defence and then defend curbing of freedom of speech when it’s to your benefit.




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Friday, February 10, 2006 5:26 PM

that the editor of this publication (or any other for that matter) has at some other time in the past decided to not print something is not censorship. censorship is out side coercion, specifically by some sort of government (when the cops come and tell you not to do it or your going to get in trouble). further more how much dose that have to do with this? what were the pic's of Jesus like what did they say what could they be considered to say what was the objection to them what was the reason behind them in the first place.

from the Muslim side: the more fundamentalist section is outraged just by the fact that it is a depiction of Mohamed. doesn’t matter what the content is besides that (Jesus and Buda could be knelling at his feet and they would still be burning embassies and betting up suspected Christians).

ive' only seen two of these cartoon's one references terrorism the other oppression of woman. there pretty standard editorial cartoons (by the by the kind of thing i see all the time about Christianity /Catholicism.) now are these two cartoons that equate Islam with terrorism and oppression of woman offensive to Islam? yes, off course there meant to be.

if i called somebody a thief and a bully it's an offensive thing to do. now if that person has broadly speaking two chooses on how to respond. he could contest the accusation, in other words show proof that he is not a thief or a bully. or he could scream at me and start beating me about the head intille i took it back.

right now the Muslim world by and large (are all Muslims every ware moving in lock steep? agine no, it's not about good vs bad Muslims or even necessarily who has the majority in the community) scramming and spiting and beating and demanding that "we" take it back and admit that Islam is the bestist religion in the world.

the thing with these two cartoons (i have heard that some of them were in fact across the line from editorial to out right defamation /blaspheme. just word of mouth but i'm willing to believe it) is it's going to be hard for the Muslim world to answer them.

terrorism: well first explain all the bombs, beheadings (including Asian school girls for the crime of warring catholic school uniforms) and so on.

oppression of woman: well agine can you really say the shoe doesn’t fit?
i freely admit there are moderate Muslims in this world people that would never ever be involved in these types of excesses. further more people that may vary well be sickened by what these others are doing in the name of there religion. but should the anger be against the person pointing out the elephant in the room or agenst the persons that brought it inside in the first place?

sorry for the ramble i get cared away some times (also you know for the spelling
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Friday, February 10, 2006 6:01 PM

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Originally posted by 20thCentFoxHater:
If it stays over there, in the Middle East, all the better.



Unfortunately, that may not be the case. Luckily, the protests in Canada have been peaceful in comparison with those in the Middle East, but they've had to cancel the protest in Montreal for fear that it could turn violent. And there's been backlash against a professor who displayed the cartoons.

The Toronto Star has more:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout
/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1139526651816&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home


I've had one instructor email the class a link to the cartoons and to an article about them, and no one seems to have minded - of course they did so because it's relevant to the class and we expressed interest in discussing it. The prof in the Star article seems to be courting controversy- at the best of times a lecture regarding the evils of religion is not likely to go over well.

I realize that the protests here are nothing compared to those in the Middle East, but I thought it was still worth mentioning.

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